On June 21, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Nelson A. Rockefeller, John A. Volpe, Jacob K. Javits, James L. Buckley, John D. Ehrlichman, William L. Gifford, William A. Ronan, Alexander P. Butterfield, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:38 pm to 1:22 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 739-010 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding AidConversation No. 739-10
Date: June 21, 1972
Time: 12:38-1:22 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Nelson A. Rockefeller, John A. Volpe, Jacob K. Javits, James L.
Buckley, John D. Ehrlichman, William L. Gifford, William A. Ronan, and Alexander P.
Butterfield.
[Members of the press and the White House photographer were present at the beginning of this
meeting]
(rev. Feb-02)
Greetings
Mass transit grant in New York
Bond issue
Mass transit grant
-Purchase of new subway cars
-New York City transit
-Compared to Moscow transit system
-Need for leadership
-John V. Lindsay
-Ronan
-Business community
The President's previous conversation with Arthur F. Burns
-Burns's trip
-Importance of leadership
-Relation of political stability to capital investment
-Cuba
-Fidel Castro
-Chile
-Stability
-Effect on investment
-Brazil
-Emilio Garrastazu Medici
-The President’s previous conversation with Luis Echeverria Alvarez
Grumman aircraft
-F-14 fighter plane
-Elmo R. Zumwalt, Jr.
-Contract re-negotiation
-Space shuttle
-Number of jobs in New York and California
-McDonnell-Douglas
-F-14 contract re-negotiation
-Zumwalt
-National Aeronautics and Space Administration [NASA]
-James C. Fletcher
-Financial condition
-Lockheed
-Space shuttle
-Funding
-Ghettos
(rev. Feb-02)
-Employment
-Cooperation with Soviet Union
-The President’s view
-F-14 production
-McDonnell-Douglas
-Procurement
-F-14s
-Israel
-Possible purchase
The President's previous conversation with Burns
-Israel
-Acquisition of arms
-Soviet intervention
-Role of US President
-US policy
-Defense policy
-Military forces
-Jordan crisis
-US actions
-US policy
-Summit conferences
-Reasoning
-Chou En-Lai
-Leonid I. Brezhnev
-Will of the US
-US interests
-Burundi
-Middle East
-Europe
-Japan
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[Duration: 1m 54s]
The President’s previous conversation with Arthur F. Burns
-George S. McGovern
-Credibility
(rev. Feb-02)
-Congress
-The President
-The President’s conversation with Herbert Stein
-Legislative history
-George S. McGovern’s positions
-Tax reform bill
-Nomination
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Defense budget
-Congress
-People's Republic of China [PRC] and the Soviet Union
-Importance of strength
-Volpe’s trip to Soviet Union
-Catholic Church
Rockefeller’s role in New York City
-Lindsay [?]
Rockefeller, Javits, Buckley, Gifford, and Ronan left at 1:08 pm.
John A. Volpe, Jr. entered at 1:08 pm.
Greetings
Presentation of gifts by the President
Rockefeller
Volpe and Volpe, Jr. left at 1:10 pm.
Ehrlichman's conversation with Elliot L. Richardson
-Welfare reform
-Department of Health, Education and Welfare [HEW]
-House Resolution [HR] 1
-Higher Education bill
The President left at an unknown time after 1:10 pm.
Ehrlichman talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 1:10 and 1:22 pm.
[Conversation No. 739-10A]
(rev. Feb-02)
Ehrlichman's schedule
[End of telephone conversation]
The President entered at an unknown time before 1:22pm.
Ehrlichman's conversation with Richardson
-Higher education bill
-Possible veto
-Busing
-Stephen J. Roth decision
An unknown person entered and left at an unknown time before 1:22pm.
Refreshments
-Ehrlichman’s schedule
Ehrlichman’s conversation with Richardson
-Higher education bill
-Possible veto
-Irving Kristol's book
-Warren E. Burger
-Education
-The President
-George S. McGovern
-The President's conversation with Caspar W. Weinberger
-Other veto possibilities
-Higher education
-Richardson
-As an industry
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[Duration: 2m 51s]
1972 campaign
-George S. McGovern
-John D. Ehrlichman’s conversation with Roy Wilkins
(rev. Feb-02)
-Roy Wilkins’ leadership of movement
-Roy Wilkins’ support for the President
-Busing
-George S. McGovern
-Programs
-The President’s conversation with Herbert Stein
-Proposals of the Congressional Black Caucus
-Patrick J. Buchanan
-George S. McGovern’s endorsement
-Costs of programs
-Credibility
-Barry M. Goldwater
-The President’s credibility
-Possible campaign plan
-Media
-George S. McGovern’s positions
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Busing
-Robert P. Griffin
-Richard G. Valeriani
Richardson
-Welfare reform
Ehrlichman left at 1:22 pm.This transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.