Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 741 › Conversation 741-005

Nixon, Dixon & Butz on Agriculture and 4-H

Friday, June 23, 1972 · 12:44 PM–12:50 PM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Dixon, Carlos D.; Dixon, Carlos D. (Mrs.); Dixon, Stephen C.; Dixon, Kimberley R.; Butz, Earl L.; Smith, James V.; Whitaker, John C.; White House photographer; Dixon, Anita J.Conversation741-005 on Tape 741 (tape position 03:07:00–03:15:19)StartFriday, June 23, 1972 at 12:44 PMEndFriday, June 23, 1972 at 12:50 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 741-005 ↗

President Nixon met with Carlos D. Dixon and his family, accompanied by Secretary of Agriculture Earl L. Butz and other officials, to discuss the state of American agriculture and the importance of programs like 4-H and the Future Farmers of America. The conversation highlighted the role of the Farmers Home Administration in supporting capital acquisition for successful farming ventures. Additionally, the President presented the family with gifts and engaged in casual discussion regarding White House furnishings and the economic concerns of cattlemen regarding beef prices.

  • Agriculture
  • 4-H
  • Future Farmers of America
  • Farmers Home Administration
  • Beef prices
  • Carlos D. Dixon

Audio for this conversation has not been released by the National Archives.

No transcript is available because the audio has not been released.

On June 23, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Carlos D. Dixon, Mrs. Carlos D. Dixon, Stephen C. Dixon, Kimberley R. Dixon, Earl L. Butz, James V. Smith, John C. Whitaker, White House photographer, and Anita J. Dixon met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:44 pm to 12:50 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 741-005 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 741-5

Date: June 23, 1972
Time: 12:44-12:50 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Carlos D. Dixon, Mrs. Dixon, Anita J. Dixon, Stephen C. Dixon,
Kimberley R. Dixon, Earl L. Butz, James V. Smith, and John C. Whitaker; members of the press
and the White House photographer were present at the beginning to the meeting.

     Introductions

     Dixon's experience as farmer

     Importance of agriculture
         -4-H program
         -Future Farmers of America [FFA]
         -Capital acquisition
         -Farmers Home Administration [FHA]
         -Success

     Butz
            -Advocacy of farmers

     Presentation of gifts by the President

     Oval Office furnishings
          -Rug
          -Gift from the Soviet Union
          -Julie Nixon Eisenhower
          -The Presidential seal

     Presentation of gifts by the President

      Butz's speeches

      Farmers
          -Importance
          -Beef prices
                -Cattlemen

Dixon et al. left at 12:50 pm.
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Conversation 741-005, June 23, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/741-005 (accessed September 30, 2026).