Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 741 › Conversation 741-013

Nixon, Rumsfeld & Haldeman on Documentary filming and Wolper Organization

Friday, June 23, 1972 · 2:56 PM–3:00 PM ET · Oval Office

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Rumsfeld, Donald H.; Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Stein, Herbert; Spiegel, Edward R.; Hogan, Harry; Roland, Fritz; [Unknown person(s)]; Bull, Stephen B.Conversation741-013 on Tape 741 (tape position 03:41:56–03:48:27)StartFriday, June 23, 1972 at 2:56 PMEndFriday, June 23, 1972 at 3:00 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 741-013 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon met with Donald Rumsfeld, H. R. Haldeman, Herbert Stein, and a production crew from the Wolper Organization to coordinate the filming of an upcoming documentary. The discussion focused on logistical instructions regarding the President's movements and camera placement within the White House. Additionally, the group touched upon the President’s past interactions with the Brookings Institution and his upcoming schedule at Camp David.

Audio

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NARA Description

On June 23, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Donald H. Rumsfeld, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Herbert Stein, Edward R. Spiegel, Harry Hogan, Fritz Roland, unknown person(s), and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:56 pm and 3:00 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 741-013 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 741-13

Date: June 23, 1972
Time: 2:56-Unknown before 3:00 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Donald H. Rumsfeld, H. R. Haldeman, Herbert Stein, Edward R. Spiegal,
Harry Hogan, Fritz Roland, and unknown members of the Wolper Organization, Inc. production
crew.

     Instructions for filming
           -The President's movements

     Weather in Washington
         -Temperature

     The President's meeting with Kermit Gordon
          -Brookings Institution
                -Political leanings
                      -Compared to media
          -John D. Ehrlichman, Haldeman
          -Government contracts

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 2:56 pm.

     Instructions for filming
           -Cameras

The President, Rumsfeld, Stein, and Haldeman left at an unknown time before 3:00 pm.

     Documentary filming
         -Instructions for the President
         -Film crew
         -Format

     The President's schedule
          -Camp David

The recording was cut off at an unknown time before 3:00 pm.

Transcript (AI-generated)

No transcript is available because Easy Nixon does not have the audio yet.

Also recorded on June 23, 1972

  • 343-036 2:20 PM · 23 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Charles W. Colson, White House operator, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 2:20 pm to 2:45 pm.
  • 025-135 2:22 PM · 38 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone from 2:22 pm to 2:34 pm.
  • 025-136 2:29 PM · 12 min — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 2:29 pm.
  • 026-001 3:00 PM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:00 pm and 4:06 pm.
  • 026-002 3:00 PM · 20 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:00 pm and 4:07 pm.
  • 741-014 3:00 PM — President Richard M. Nixon, Donald H. Rumsfeld, Herbert Stein, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Stephen B. Bull, Edward R. Spiegel, Harry Hogan, Fritz Roland, unknown person(s), John D. Ehrlichman, Robert H. Finch, Manolo Sanchez, and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:00 pm to 4:22 pm.
  • 026-003 4:07 PM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon and George P. Shultz talked on the telephone from 4:07 pm to 4:13 pm.
  • 026-004 4:14 PM · 47 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 4:14 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 741-013, June 23, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/741-013 (accessed November 14, 2026).