Conversation: 744-021
Prev:  744-020 Next: 744-022Start Date: 30-Jun-1972 2:55 PM
End Date: 30-Jun-1972 3:18 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); MacGregor, Clark; Bull, Stephen B.; Lagdameo, Ernesto V.; Lagdameo, Ernesto V. (Mrs.); Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 03:30:38
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:53:45
NARA Description:
On June 30, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Clark MacGregor, Stephen B. Bull, Ernesto V. Lagdameo, and Mrs. Ernesto V. Lagdameo met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:55 pm to 3:18 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 744-021 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 744-21 Date: June 30, 1972 Time: 2:55-3:18 pm Location: Oval Office The President met with Clark MacGregor. [This recording began at an unknown time while the meeting was in progress.] Social Security bill -Frank T. Church amendment -Possible veto -Cost to Social Security reserves -Fears of elderly -The President's position -Effects of veto of debt ceiling bill -Future debt ceiling bills -Congressional support -Samuel L. Devine -Ways and Means Committee -John W. Byrnes, Barber B. Conable, Jr. -Elliot L. Richardson -Possible testimony -Wilbur D. Mills -Byrnes -Effects of passage -Welfare reform bill (House Resolution [HR] 1) -Administration plan to delay Congressional adjournment -Possible statement about the President's feeling on Social Security -Record of the President's administration -Richardson -George P. Shultz's opinion on administration's fight -Richardson -Fight in committee -Possible amendments -Rules of debate -Byrnes -Leslie C. Arends -Jackson E. Betts 24 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Feb-02) Conv. No. 744-21 (cont.) -Arends -Conable -John B. Anderson -John J. Rhodes -George H. Mahon The President’s forthcoming meeting with Ernesto V. Lagdameo -MacGregor's trip to Manila Social Security bill -Possible veto -MacGregor’s view -Fight in committee -Campaign issue -Reasons for veto -Debt ceiling extensions -Political motivations of Congressional Democrats George S. McGovern ***************************************************************** BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1 [Personal returnable] [Duration: 37s ] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1 ***************************************************************** Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 2:55 pm. The President's schedule -Anna C. Chennault Bull left at an unknown time before 3:12 pm. The President's schedule -MacGregor 25 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF Tape Subject Log (rev. Feb-02) Conv. No. 744-21 (cont.) Social Security bill -Shultz -Caspar W. Weinberger Chennault, Lagdameo, and Mrs. Ernesto Lagdameo entered at 3:12 pm. Greetings Arrangements for photograph Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:12 pm. The President's schedule -Richard G. Kleindienst -Ronald L. Ziegler Gifts Photographs bull left at an unknown time before 3:18 pm. MacGregor Chennault Presentation of gifts by the President Parties The President's schedule MacGregor, et al., left at 3:18 pm.