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Yeah, right now, right now.

He's a nice man.

I like him a lot.

They do.

That's really nice to get.

Yeah, I've got your coffee.

That's great.

Oh, that's really good.

Terrific.

Twenty-eight, June?

Twenty-second.

Twenty-second?

A lot of Saturdays.

Yeah.

Twelve minutes.

Of July.

Twenty-second of July.

No problem.

Yeah.

Saturday.

Yeah.

You know, the one thing I wanted to talk to you about breathing.

I'll be right with me and David.

The girl, she said, hired.

And this girl is in the scheduling, which is not at all the case.

But she's working on overall programs.

It's over.

I don't think you know her.

She's an older woman.

She's 42.

Why did I make Bob?

You might explain who the woman is and who she's working with.

I just want you to know.

I understand.

Dave Parker called.

She's on his staff.

That's right.

Do you think it's all right?

Yeah, no.

I think Mother was concerned because the article was bad.

It said the taxpayers were paying for the schedule of Patricia Neiman.

She was earning between $50,000 and $30,000 a year.

That is a bad story.

But it wasn't anyone's fault.

It's just Sarah Crawford.

Yeah.

that basically are not political

Yeah, right.

God Almighty.

Right.

Yeah, I was just going to say, I think it's important.

If you want to bounce out of here, it's a lousy story, but it's not, it has no, I think a lot of it's not true.

We've got to talk about it and probably go a different way.

The thing you should tell them is you just don't read the God of death watching you.

I really mean this.

Or you start to get behind it.

They're all sensational.

They're all political.

And they're going to be worse and worse and worse.

But if you read it, you're going to go out of your mind because you're going to play it into their hands.

Because they have this problem.

The second point is with regard to the speech writer.

Well, I've talked with Ray Price, and he thinks she's very good.

I think we can start to work with her.

But how did you... Well, I just...

I don't know.

They have great confidence in her, and I think it's going to work out.

We've talked to her.

We haven't met her, so we... Haven't met her yet?

Yeah, and as I say, we've talked, and... Do we?

I don't know.

And we've given her a speech that we've changed so she can see how to change how we speak to her.

I think we're going to work with her.

I just don't think we should build Nader up.

He doesn't ever give us a break.

Whenever you have anything like that, you read it, and if you don't like it, bring it up, because you never know when one of these speechwriters, let me say this, with the exception of Duke, with the exception of any single one, every speechwriter we have is on the left.

Yeah, more on the left.

Your street trackers basically tend to be leftists because they've gone to college.

Tech Lazar said some good work to me.

Do you like his work, Tech Lazar?

He's done some of your, you know, remarks.

L-E-C-A-R.

But my point is, you can watch it.

The other thing is, it's got to be watched before it gets to you.

That's right, obviously.

I think they have done an awful lot.

I personally think, Bob, that we should load them up now, between now and the convention.

It's just, I mean, the summer from the dawn of days and all that sort of thing.

I don't want you to plan it in this period.

Let me put it this way, I don't want to take away the start.

I don't think that would be necessary.

But I think, like last week, especially with Julie's schedule, it was too heavy on the union.

Now that's, you thought it was

I think the only thing is, I think it's hard to go away and go off today, you know?

Not that it works together.

But I've met with State Parks yesterday, and we're just scheduling one thing a week.

Can you go over that list of things?

Yes.

Because we've got a lot.

I hate to say it, but it kind of makes a small difference.

I want you to do a little of the South.

Yeah.

That's the South.

You've got Texas coming up.

Dallas.

Dallas sounds good.

But I want Mississippi.

We haven't got those yet.

Alabama.

Yeah, I think we should go there.

Oh, there's no question.

Georgia.

Absolutely.

Yeah, well, you might have a chance.

The thing is, though, what do you think about the operation?

I don't want them to be worn out.

I mean, isn't it going to be more important for them to be out there in September and October?

Of course, I'll be out there.

In some ways, it's more important for them to be out now.

Because we're not campaigning.

The non-political state is more non-political now.

And because they can get attention now, not related to the campaign.

I don't know what you're saying.

You're talking about everything.

You're speaking of national attention, correct.

Local attention.

Okay.

Yeah, they're not the same thing.

I don't think we should travel together.

I need to lose that.

Well, we really don't have much scheduled in August.

I don't have anything next week, and I only have one thing during the Democratic convention, which is vocational education, which we don't want to miss doing.

Yeah, I think if she went up to visit Elaine, that she'd be in L.A. anyway, that she might have been on her way up.

But what if you're on schedule?

I'm not trying to cut it off.

No, I agree.

Well, we just don't have a hard schedule, and I don't want it right now.

How about a month of August?

We don't have much scheduled in August because of the convention.

If you follow your plan, you're going to be all busy at the convention, and that's going to be bad.

And the convention could be one.

We'll need to work on that and make it really good.

Did you do that?

Which is great.

You don't push too hard.

Yeah, no, I do.

He's very easy to work with.

You can do a lot of things because you're the one that has the most command and so forth.

You've got your mom to talk to when she's on it.

I will if I'm aware of what they are, but a lot of times I don't know that someone's first come, first served.

No, I think she's doing fine.

She said that they were so friendly.

Isn't that great?

She said there were no boos, and she said five standing ovations for the little speech she gave.

That's the most powerful Spanish organization, the oldest.

She spoke Spanish, and they loved it.

So that's great.

Yeah, I'm sure she said he's a good speaker.

Yeah, Ramirez doesn't need to do that.

They'll have to take a hard look at this.

Our analysis looks like we can, and especially, it's interesting, especially in Texas.

We understand, well, you've got better Republican tradition towers done well with the Mexicans in Texas.

And you've got a better chance of inroads there.

California is the least likely.

Because they've got the radicals.

Well, the radicals.

You've got Chavez there, and they've been used so heavily in the radical thing, and that map of

Amen.

I feel like it's really a true emotion.

Yeah, that's smart.

She's got a great background.

That's right.

She's got a great, she gets it out of people.

That's right.

She knows how to get, you know, how to deal with the problems, you know, when we're put things together and we're taking them apart.

It's an instinctive ability.

I feel like it probably can happen.

Yeah, do you have a deal of value on the last things out there?

Because we've got a lot of batches potentially.

Do you have a key list of how you want to go about things out there?

Because we've got quite a batch of potential.

I know quite a few people are coming out, and I just wonder if we want to, if we aren't going to do them, we ought to turn them off so they aren't sitting on it.

I agree for them to come out during the convention to begin with.

Do you mean the second one?

I forgot.

So you want to have the first one.

What do you think?

I don't want to make any news.

That's right.

I would be not, well, another thing I did, one of the things you talked about was coming out and what he wants to do, do anything he wanted to do, but he can't, the way his schedule is going now, he can't leave Europe until the 9th of the 9th or get back here until the 9th of the 9th or maybe the 10th, which is Monday.

What he wants to do, if he will, if it works out, is he'd like to go to Jamaica and spend a couple of days before he comes back

then come out to California from Jamaica, which would get him out to California, he says, on the 13th, which is the day the Democratic Convention ends.

And he felt, I sure do, that it's much more productive for him to come right after the convention, so that under the cover of reporting on the trip, he can talk about the strategy, how to deal with whatever the Democrats have to work that out.

Rogers, personally, in fact, and Rogers, in fact, earlier, he might have let him come on earlier, getting out of the way, I'm sure.

Right, right.

The other thing is, as those people take care of it, not as far as the other, the only one I really think is the, I think, is Cat Wifer, and then I mentioned the cost of other kinds of people.

Yeah, that was, you raised that for a thing on Friday or Saturday.

Well, that's fine.

Cost of labor, no reason.

Right.

And there was also the...

Yeah, well, finding each other's death penalty.

Right.

That's a good question.

Right.

And where you're at now, which wouldn't be so much with you.

I'm afraid I've got to make a hard one for that man.

Right.

Because I'll have some intuitions about some of those people.

Right.

Like a cat in a car, for example.

Yeah.

I was shocked that she was still there, but I raised that thing three months ago about her.

That's a disaster.

But three months ago, it was what?

She was Jewish.

She's better than Pat Hitt because she's also raised with Peterson going out to discuss the delegation of the Soviet Union.

He thinks she did.

Oh, hell no.

And that would seem to be kind of ridiculous.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

Henry Peterson has got to go out and report to people for like the Russians.

at all, and I think he's right about that.

We want to play on the viewers' trip to Russia, but I think Henry has delayed it.

I don't give a shit.

I'll just leave it until after you get back, I think, because I think there's no reason for him to come out there again, because the delegation is something that I would not be getting to.

Okay.

He's a good lawyer, somebody.

Why don't you put Monfort on that?

Monfort has spent a lot of time

That's what I would

I don't know what you want to do.

Unless you get locked in together, it seems to happen.

But you will probably want to do something.

I'd like to do a hell of a lot, but Sir Robert Thompson, I don't think is a great necessity, frankly.

That one I think probably, unless Henry, Henry can see him, just have him stay a little bit longer.

He's a half hour.

Spend some time.

That's what they do.

Yeah.

But we could write it out to

If you want to make new, you should put them on a different day.

Otherwise, you should put them all on the same day and come out on the same time.

Why not put them on different days?

I guess, you know, bounce back and forth.

But it's easy.

Then you don't have to go through a schedule each day.

I had a holiday.

I had a holiday rather early, which is 10 in the morning or something.

Earlier?

The disadvantage of that is that you have to come to the office each day.

We might decide that I don't give a damn much about the stories, and then I have all come the same day, and I just decide that I'm not going to do anything.

I'd like to keep it a little loose, but let's do that.

All the vigor on Friday and Saturday, that's a good time.

I think for the next three or four days, let's hope the Democrats fart around.

Do you agree?

And of course, by Saturday, they'll be gathering.

No, he's a strange doctor.

He said, thanks for sending me here today.

He's just really strange.

We're not.

Oh, he is.

Wish you well on your trip.

I think he's convinced himself he's doing this as a favor to you now and something.

This is a big mission.

It's not a reason to go.

It's ridiculous.

Nothing to talk about for everyone.

Make something up to him.

The thing about

I don't really think Dookie knows that he's that smart.

Do you agree or not?

Or does he confess he knows all about everything?

Do you understand we get him internationally when he tells us about how he grew up in Congress without a movie?

I've heard that story a dozen times.

I think he does think he knows all about it.

You do?

Okay.

So it repeats what he's read in 200 minutes.

That's about it.

very good energy, awfully good energy, and Julia was fighting off into it.

In terms, you've got to say this when he speaks.

Pat was saying that celebrities, and he said Mitchell was very poor, and that's where he was.

Reagan was great.

He was great.

He was just great.

You've got to give credit, Bob.

Reagan is good, and Connolly is good.

That's the thing.

You want to sign the letter?

I see a part of the church here that you can come in.

I did.

I talked to the vice president.

He said he wasn't surprised.

He said, actually, maybe this is a better thing.

He kicked Jesus out of government.

That's his fault.

He just did stuff ahead of time.

Yeah.

I agree.

Oh, he's over at 1701?

Yeah.

Thank you.

Well, what's great is they're giving real speeches now.

They're not just running out and looking nice, smiling on the platform, waving and saying, my father sent you greetings.

And they're getting some finely chopped speeches.

It's worth it.

All the work they do on the speeches.

All the work of our staff.

You've got to pray on that.

You understand part of the message.

They're all crying, crying.

They cry for these kids.

They cry for all of them.

That was the first time I've seen a long time where they broke one bullet and they run another one.

What was that?

We announced the Social Security sign.

Yeah.

They read that message.

I heard that.

I saw it this morning.

That's one of the brothers.

Right.

It's pretty tough.

It can last for

After they ran that, they... Well, they started with a bulletin that you had signed that, and then midway through, they bulletined the middle.

What happened?

I don't know.

They changed it.

They dropped their bases a little.

Were they surprised?

I haven't seen them, quite frankly.

I saw that on the wire machine.

See, a lot of our records have left for California.

They'll step off the plane on the other end.

What's on the plane?

They're already flying.

Don't we have a phone number?

Well, they're all over there.

But the wires are moving straight, but you'll resign today.

I will have them.

I'll be sure to know that I will.

I'm going to get up in California.

I'm just going to avoid them.

No, we'll have you a letter.

I mean, just a letter.

Well, I know.

If I walk around, I'm just going to walk right over to the plane.

You're right.

I'm sure of it.

having people downplay a crowd situation.

If they'll go back to the pool on the lane, I'd have a poo.

So I haven't been back to that pool, you know, for years.

So, don't worry.

The only thing I'll say is that we had some private lunch with John, I'm sure, yesterday.

Yeah, I guess I will tell you the same as the President's letter.

It's a personal...

You had a lunch with him yesterday.

He informed you of his personal decision.

You understood it.

It's reflected in your letter.

And his first paragraph of his letter to her.

So there's really nothing more that has to be said.

Well, they're trying to get in and see what they can do for a water gate or, you know, a crystal or a firehouse.

What was it, $25?

Twenty-two.

Twenty-two in that walkie-talkie.

When they came in, the story was that they found a map of a water gate and a

I mean, it wasn't a buggy device.

Well, it was not the type of buggy device you described.

It was an unconscious one.

That's the type.

I didn't even know it existed.

Well, I'm not going to override the other, but in a whole.

And I don't think anyone's going to drive this signal beyond .

It still is a big story, but they will believe it's very believable, but because it speaks to .

That's true tragedy.

CBS told me, and I'm not going to call it for the merch here, but they had a discussion in their bureau about whether or not even to run it the first night.

And what they ended up doing was just

Very quickly passed on.

And they considered not even hunting.

But they came down on the background.

Not bad.

She's very concerned about her reaction.

I see.

We must be the one to question her.

She's flushed.

She's drunk.

She's mentally ill.

Thank you.

Somebody might use it all.

Oh, hello.

It's got to be General Walters.

Did you get a Christian by any chance?

Yeah, I told her.

What'd she think?

Let's take this book out, sir.

Oh, yeah