{"conversationCode":"748-005","tapeNumber":748,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-748-005","startDateTime":"1972-07-20T14:38:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-07-20T14:59:00.000Z","startDate":"20-Jul-1972","startTime":"10:38 AM","endDate":"20-Jul-1972","endTime":"10:59 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Butterfield, Alexander P.;","description":"On July 20, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:38 am and 10:59 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 748-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 748-5\n\nDate: July 20, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 10:38 am and 10:59 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Alexander P. Butterfield.\n\n     The President's schedule\n          -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman's recommendation\n                -Agency heads\n                      -Breakfast meeting\n                      -Cabinet meeting\n\nButterfield left at an unknown time before 10:59 am.","filename":["748-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Butterfield, Alexander P."],"prevCode":"748-004","nextCode":"748-006","transcript":[{"start":0.19,"end":3.12,"text":"everything on track for tomorrow, but it's one thing."},{"start":3.15,"end":7.19,"text":"And I thought the astronomy recommends that we not have those agency ads to brag about."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Alexander P. Butterfield to review the logistics of upcoming official engagements, specifically focusing on the President's schedule. The discussion centered on H.R. Haldeman’s recommendation regarding the inclusion of agency heads in planned breakfast and Cabinet meetings. The President expressed concerns about the optics of these appearances, ultimately weighing whether to proceed with or cancel the planned involvement of agency leadership.","topics":["Presidential schedule","H.R. Haldeman","Cabinet meetings","Agency heads","White House operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T03:49:44.655Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","h-r-haldeman","cabinet-meetings","agency-heads","white-house-operations"],"audioDurationSec":16,"audioFiles":[{"file":"748-005.mp3","bytes":374281,"durationSec":15.53,"bitrate":192762,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.689Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/748-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/748-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/748/conversation-748-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}