{"conversationCode":"752-008","tapeNumber":752,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-752-008","startDateTime":"1972-07-25T14:57:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-07-25T15:12:00.000Z","startDate":"25-Jul-1972","startTime":"10:57 AM","endDate":"25-Jul-1972","endTime":"11:12 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary; Gallagher, Raymond A.;","description":"On July 25, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, and Raymond A. Gallagher met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:57 am and 11:12 am. 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Agnew Vice Presidency announcement\n                          -Compared with social events\n\n     1972 campaign\n         -Washington Star series on George S. McGovern\n              -Rose Mary Woods’ opinion\n              -Spiro T. Agnew [?]\n              -The President’s opinion\n\n     Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon’s schedule\n         -July 27, 1972 trip to New York\n               -Clothing\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nThe President talked with Raymond A. Gallagher.\n\n[Conversation No. 752-8A]\n\n[See Conversation No. 27-50]\n\n[End of telephone conversation]\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 11/08/2022.\n6m 36s segment cleared for release with three segments of 2m 21s, 46s, and 11s remaining\nclosed as 752-008-w003 and 752-008-w004, and 752-008-w005 respectively.]\n\n[Personal Returnable]\n[752-008-w003]\n[Duration: 6m 36s]\n\n     Julie Nixon Eisenhower\n           -California\n           -Barbara H. Firestone\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3\n[Personal Returnable]\n[752-008-w003]\n[Duration: 2m 21s]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n     1972 campaign\n         -John B. Connally\n         -Lyndon B. Johnson\n               -Conversation with the President\n                     -The President’s opinion\n                     -Lyndon B. Johnson's daughters and grandchildren\n               -Forthcoming meeting with George S. McGovern\n               -Role in 1972 campaign\n         -John B. Connally\n               -Phil Regan's letter\n         -Democrats for Nixon\n               -Phil Regan's letter\n                     -Response\n                     -California committee\n                     -James Roosevelt's forthcoming meeting with Phil Regan\n                     -Forward to John B. Connally\n               -Letters\n               -Rock Island County, Illinois Young Democrats\n                     -Request for photo of the President\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4\n[Personal Returnable]\n[752-008-w004]\n[Duration: 46s]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n    1972 campaign\n        -Democrats for Nixon\n             -Phil Regan\n                   -Labor\n                       -[Unknown first name ] McDonald\n                       -Role with John F. Kennedy\n             -James Roosevelt\n                   -Franklin D. Roosevelt\n             -Francis A. (“Frank”) Sinatra\n             -James Roosevelt\n                   -Response\n                       -John B. Connally\n             -Mailing address\n                   -Charles W. Colson\n                       -John B. Connally\n                              -Previous appearance on Today\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5\n[Personal Returnable]\n[752-008-w005]\n[Duration: 11s]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nWoods left at 11:12 am.","filename":["752-008.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Woods, Rose Mary","Gallagher, Raymond A."],"prevCode":"752-007","nextCode":"752-009","transcript":[{"start":11.68,"end":12,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":12.04,"end":12.24,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":13.2,"end":15.34,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":16.4,"end":25.24,"text":"Ray, I just called to tell you how much I appreciated your support, which I saw on the news at the time and so forth."},{"start":25.56,"end":27.7,"text":"It sure could be to be on the same team with you."},{"start":30.04,"end":31.54,"text":"You know, a couple of fighters."},{"start":32.12,"end":37.68,"text":"I must say, though, when I saw this call, your calls out, I thought it was about the D.O.W."},{"start":37.76,"end":38.74,"text":"where he said, yes, we"},{"start":45.4,"end":49.36,"text":"The only thing that they would understand is something that gets to them."},{"start":49.38,"end":54.2,"text":"Otherwise, they're just going to thumbs their nose back and return."},{"start":55.16,"end":56.86,"text":"That's right."},{"start":56.94,"end":61.59,"text":"Why, we try to understand how they're doing over here."},{"start":61.87,"end":63.11,"text":"We try to be more of a thing."},{"start":66.45,"end":69.97,"text":"All right."},{"start":70.09,"end":70.59,"text":"Oh, good."},{"start":71.17,"end":72.93,"text":"Relax, Michael."},{"start":78,"end":78.2,"text":"Okay."},{"start":78.28,"end":87.1,"text":"Well, I'm sure everybody knows, particularly our Democratic friends, that I consider this to be a campaign that's not personal."},{"start":87.94,"end":91.79,"text":"It's not part and parcel of the country."},{"start":91.87,"end":98.05,"text":"We want to come forward on that basis, and everybody's going to be treated exactly that way."},{"start":100.31,"end":100.61,"text":"Right."},{"start":101.32,"end":101.48,"text":"Okay."},{"start":102.04,"end":102.58,"text":"I'll do my best."},{"start":102.6,"end":103.24,"text":"I don't know what I want to do."},{"start":103.26,"end":104.68,"text":"I've got to do the least."},{"start":104.7,"end":106.84,"text":"I'm sure we can do that last year, but"},{"start":107.68,"end":108.92,"text":"We don't connect."},{"start":110,"end":110.2,"text":"You do."},{"start":110.22,"end":111.69,"text":"You'll be in touch."},{"start":112.61,"end":113.07,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Rose Mary Woods to discuss various personal matters, including family schedules, press coverage of the 1972 campaign, and reactions to media stories. Following this, Nixon held a phone conversation with Raymond A. Gallagher to express appreciation for his political support and to strategize on the \"Democrats for Nixon\" initiative. The discussions primarily centered on campaign outreach efforts, the strategic role of John B. Connally, and managing support from prominent Democrats and labor figures.","topics":["1972 Presidential Campaign","Democrats for Nixon","John B. 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