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Start Date: 25-Jul-1972 2:29 PM

End Date: 25-Jul-1972 3:04 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Ehrlichman, John D.Bull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

752-013.mp3

NARA Description:

On July 25, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, John D. Ehrlichman, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:29 pm to 3:04 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 752-013 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 752-13

Date: July 25, 1972
Time: 2:29 pm - 3:04 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with John D. Ehrlichman.

     Federal budget
         -Speech
         -Message to Congress
         -Ehrlichman's forthcoming backgrounder
         -The President's schedule
               -Press conference
         -Public interest
         -Testimony of July 25, 1972 by George P. Shultz and Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
         -[Message to Congress]
         -The President's schedule
               -Possible speech
                     -Preparation
         -Message to Congress
               -Weinberger
               -[John B. MacDonald]
                     -Raymond K. Price, Jr.
                     -Writing style
         -Veto strategy
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                                Tape Subject Log
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          -Weinberger's views
          -The President’s view
                -San Clemente
                -Tax increases
                    -Spending cuts
          -Water bill
          -Possible spending ceiling on Congress
                -George S. McGovern
          -The President's possible statement
                -Taxpayer
                    -Taxes, prices
                -Congress
                    -Fiscal responsibility
     -Rural development bill
          -Memorandum
          -Possible signing
          -Views of Clayton K. Yeutter and Earl L. Butz
                -Food prices
                -Beef, chicken
          -Butz
                -Standing with farmers
                -1972 election
                -Recommended strategy for White House
                    -Food prices
                    -Cattlemen

1972 campaign
    -Food prices
         -Food stamps
               -McGovern
                    -Bill
                           -Administration signing
               -Use
               -Bill
                    -Publicity
                           -The President’s handling
                                -Clifford M. Hardin
               -Alternatives
                    -Commodities
         -Possible White House position
               -Consumer buying power

Pending legislation
    -Rural development bill
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                 NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                 Tape Subject Log
                                   (rev. Oct-06)


            -Authorization
            -Appropriations
            -John C. Whitaker's paper
            -Conference committee's report
                 -Costs
      -Office of Economic Opportunity [OEO]
            -Possible veto
            -Legal services
                 -Jacob K. Javits
                 -Possible veto
                      -Continuing resolution

OEO
      -Phillip V. Sanchez
             -Performance
                  -Donald H. Rumsfeld
                  -Support from administration
             -Campaigning
                  -Mexican-Americans

Pending legislation
    -Rural bill
          -Butz
          -The President’s efforts
                 -Fargo, Des Moines
          -Constituencies
                 -Farmers
                     -Older Americans
                 -OEO
                 -McGovern

1972 campaign
    -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
          -Role
               -Alaska, mountain states, South
          -Statement about youth and war
          -Meeting with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman and President, July 21, 1972
               -Memorandum
          -White House staff
               -Bryce N. Harlow
               -Edward L. Morgan
                   -Domestic Council
                   -Harlow
                   -Agnew’s staff
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. Oct-06)


                        -Credentials
         -Rural development bill
              -Butz
              -McGovern
              -Possible veto
                    -Weinberger

    George W. Romney
        -Meeting with Ehrlichman, July 22, 1972
        -Possible replacement
              -Rumsfeld
              -Circumstances
                    -Other Cabinet members
              -Timing
        -Housing scandal
              -Mortgage companies

    Department of Housing and Urban Development [HUD]
        -Possible replacement for Romney
              -Rumsfeld
                    -OEO
        -Possible future
              -Model cities
              -Budget
                    -Instructions for Rumsfeld
              -Model cities
              -Community development department
              -Special revenue sharing list
                    -Rumsfeld

    Pending legislation
        -Water bill
              -Possible veto
                     -Private industry
                          -Possible statement
                     -Forthcoming message
                          -Budget
        -Education bill
              -Status
                     -Timing


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                                    Tape Subject Log
                                      (rev. Oct-06)


BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration:    1m 35s  ]

END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1

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    Leslie Bacon
         -Seattle
         -March 1971 bombing of US Capitol
         -Indictment for perjury
               -Judge's order regarding wiretaps
         -Wiretaps
               -John N. Mitchell
               -Number
               -May Day demonstrators
               -Disclosure
                    -Effect
                    -Advisability
                         -Justice Department
                         -White House staff’s view
                         -Indictment
                         -Leak
                         -The President’s view
                                -Indictment
         -William T. Becks
               -Harry S. Truman

    The President's schedule
         -Preparation of talking points
               -Domestic matters
                     -Drugs, parks
               -News briefings
               -Price's staff
               -Phraseology on drug abuse
                     -Football metaphor
               -Ehrlichman's conversation with Haldeman
               -Phraseology
                     -Politics
                          -Facts
                          -Programs
                     -Code words, slogans, one-liners
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                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Oct-06)




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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal returnable]
[Duration:     4m 46s ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

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     Jake Jacobsen
          -Richard G. Kleindienst
          -John B. Connally
          -Lyndon B. Johnson
          -Justice Department investigation
                 -Informer
                 -Partner
                 -John G. Tower
                 -Possible White House action

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 2:29 pm.

     The President’s schedule

Bull left at an unknown time before 3:04 pm.

                     -Analogy to Thomas E. Stephens case
                         -Legal problems
                     -Dwight D. Eisenhower Administration
                         -Prosecution of Truman official [Matthew J. Connelly]
                               -Harry H. Vaughan
                         -T. Lamar Caudle
                               -Five-percenters
                     -Timing
                     -Ehrlichman's forthcoming conversation with Kleindienst
                         -Stephens
                               -Investigation halt
                                      -Leonard W. Hall
                                      -Harlow
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                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Oct-06)


     The President’s notes

     1972 campaign
         -McGovern
              -Staff
                   -Press
                   -Mistakes

     Narcotics
         -Executive order
         -Shultz

     1972 campaign
         -McGovern

Ehrlichman left at 3:04 pm.