{"conversationCode":"753-001","tapeNumber":753,"conversationNumber":1,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-753-001","startDateTime":"1972-07-25T21:13:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-07-25T21:14:00.000Z","startDate":"25-Jul-1972","startTime":"5:13 PM","endDate":"25-Jul-1972","endTime":"5:14 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On July 25, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 5:13 pm and 5:14 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 753-001 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 753-1\n\nDate: July 25, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 5:13 pm and 5:14 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n      The President's schedule\n           -Photograph session\n                -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon\n                -Life magazine\n                -Truman Balcony\n                -Timing\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 5:13 pm.","filename":["753-001.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"752-015","nextCode":"753-002","transcript":[{"start":5.72,"end":7.84,"text":"They're not going to go through some 40,000, 40,000."},{"start":8.18,"end":14.34,"text":"He said it's always going to be that way."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to finalize logistical arrangements for a scheduled photo session featuring First Lady Pat Nixon for Life magazine. The discussion focused on coordinating the shoot on the Truman Balcony while managing timing constraints. The participants briefly addressed procedural concerns regarding the volume of materials or logistical scope involved in the request.","topics":["Pat Nixon","Life magazine","Presidential scheduling","Truman Balcony","Photography"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T03:55:05.173Z"},"topicSlugs":["pat-nixon","life-magazine","presidential-scheduling","truman-balcony","photography"],"audioDurationSec":29,"audioFiles":[{"file":"753-001.mp3","bytes":707812,"durationSec":29.43,"bitrate":192427,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.945Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/753-001.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/753-001","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/753/conversation-753-001","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}