{"conversationCode":"753-004","tapeNumber":753,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-753-004","startDateTime":"1972-07-25T21:17:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-07-25T21:19:00.000Z","startDate":"25-Jul-1972","startTime":"5:17 PM","endDate":"25-Jul-1972","endTime":"5:19 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On July 25, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 5:17 pm and 5:19 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 753-004 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No.753-4\n\nDate: July 25, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 5:17 pm and 5:19 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n[See Conversation No. 27-52]","filename":["753-004.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"753-003","nextCode":"753-005","transcript":[{"start":0.39,"end":4.71,"text":"Could you get me Mr. Vito Marzullo in Chicago, please?"},{"start":4.75,"end":6.06,"text":"He's an all-arounder in Chicago."},{"start":6.98,"end":9.36,"text":"Vito, V-I-T-O, M-A-R-Z-U-L-L. Yeah."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon directs the White House operator to place an outgoing call to Vito Marzullo, a prominent Chicago political figure. The President briefly characterizes Marzullo as an 'all-arounder' to provide context for the request. This interaction serves as the administrative bridge for the President to initiate contact with a local Democratic operative.","topics":["Vito Marzullo","Chicago politics","White House communications","Political outreach"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T03:55:21.604Z"},"topicSlugs":["vito-marzullo","chicago-politics","white-house-communications","political-outreach"],"audioDurationSec":18,"audioFiles":[{"file":"753-004.mp3","bytes":426317,"durationSec":17.71,"bitrate":192613,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.944Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/753-004.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/753-004","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/753/conversation-753-004","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}