{"conversationCode":"753-007","tapeNumber":753,"conversationNumber":7,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-753-007","startDateTime":"1972-07-25T21:23:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-07-25T21:25:00.000Z","startDate":"25-Jul-1972","startTime":"5:23 PM","endDate":"25-Jul-1972","endTime":"5:25 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.;","description":"On July 25, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the Oval Office of the White House from 5:23 pm to 5:25 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 753-007 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 753-7\n\nDate: July 25, 1972\nTime: 5:23 pm - 5:25 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President talked with Charles W. Colson.\n\n[See Conversation No. 27-55]","filename":["753-007.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Colson, Charles W."],"prevCode":"753-006","nextCode":"753-008","transcript":[{"start":0.21,"end":15.65,"text":"Yeah, I was wondering about whether or not we should get his group in, because I don't want them to feel that they're left out."},{"start":17.05,"end":18.11,"text":"How many are there?"},{"start":34.15,"end":39.81,"text":"Well, let him come in for a few minutes now."},{"start":39.85,"end":42.79,"text":"All right, fine."},{"start":42.95,"end":49.4,"text":"Well, you can just tell them that we're working in various groups from time to time, and then when they're in a certain project, we'll bring them in."},{"start":50.78,"end":50.96,"text":"Fine."},{"start":51.16,"end":53.48,"text":"Because basically they ought to come in with a client who should be."},{"start":53.5,"end":53.62,"text":"Fine."},{"start":54.84,"end":55.88,"text":"All right, fine."},{"start":57.02,"end":57.66,"text":"Yeah, right."},{"start":57.95,"end":59.69,"text":"We'll have him come in then."},{"start":59.73,"end":61.49,"text":"That's a very good idea."},{"start":61.61,"end":64.77,"text":"I hadn't thought of that because we don't want her to be a word."},{"start":69.85,"end":71.29,"text":"Absolutely."},{"start":71.37,"end":74.93,"text":"Absolutely."},{"start":76.36,"end":76.5,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":77.74,"end":78.98,"text":"Well, that's right."},{"start":79,"end":84.04,"text":"I won't have another chance to do that."},{"start":89.55,"end":90.73,"text":"Right."},{"start":105.54,"end":105.92,"text":"Right."},{"start":106.9,"end":107.72,"text":"Right."},{"start":108.6,"end":108.9,"text":"Right."},{"start":109.76,"end":110.16,"text":"Right."},{"start":110.18,"end":110.74,"text":"Right."},{"start":110.98,"end":111.8,"text":"Right."},{"start":112.46,"end":112.72,"text":"Right."},{"start":112.94,"end":113.56,"text":"OK, John."},{"start":113.6,"end":113.92,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Charles Colson discuss the political necessity of engaging a specific advocacy group to ensure they remain aligned with the administration. Nixon directs Colson to invite the group's representative to the White House for a brief meeting to prevent them from feeling alienated. The President emphasizes managing these relationships to maintain support for specific projects, concluding that a personal outreach is the most effective approach to avoid future friction.","topics":["Political outreach","Interest groups","White House scheduling","Public relations","Political strategy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T03:55:38.935Z"},"topicSlugs":["political-outreach","interest-groups","white-house-scheduling","public-relations","political-strategy"],"audioDurationSec":117,"audioFiles":[{"file":"753-007.mp3","bytes":2811192,"durationSec":117.07,"bitrate":192108,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.689Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/753-007.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/753-007","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/753/conversation-753-007","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}