Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 756-010 Date: Friday, July 28, 1972 at 11:56 AM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Maltester, Jack D.; Gunther, John J.; Ehrlichman, John D. Recording device: Oval Office Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/756-010 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:01] Mr. Mayor? [0:05] Mr. President, well, hi, how are you? [0:07] California News, hello there. [0:08] This is Dr. Vaughn, the city councilor. [0:11] Yes, how are you? [0:12] Good to see you. [0:12] Good to see you. [0:16] Let's see, I want a picture of us here. [0:18] Why don't we sit over here? [0:19] Right over here. [0:25] Here, sit here. [0:26] Down here. [0:30] Oh, yeah. [0:36] Oh, wait. [0:36] No. [0:37] I'd like to take it here, but he's presenting me a, what's it called, a bison, right? [0:46] Right. [0:46] Right. [0:48] But we do it for a reason. [0:50] Alright, alright. [0:51] This is a... [0:51] I don't know if you can see this, but... Yeah, we got it. [0:55] There's this thing in the corner. [0:58] He's the one that has to go. [1:02] He's the one that has to go. [1:04] Alright. [1:06] He went to that person. [1:07] Alright. [1:10] And I've been in a bad situation. [1:14] I've got to put that through here. [1:30] Tell me this, how are we looking? [1:32] I don't know if I can share it, John. [1:35] How do you deal with it? [1:36] We, Matt, we met with you the other day when I was doing Testify, and we talked to Russell a couple times. [1:45] He said that it took close hearings down today, and he said that it has to happen again next week. [1:51] Senator Allender's got my soul hung a little bit, but I don't think so. [1:56] He's got a screwy idea on a referendum or something about how to spend the money. [2:03] We've got to get that out. [2:04] I understand he's on to that pretty well. [2:07] I don't know if that caused any of that. [2:09] John, if you would have a talk here... [2:13] I think this is the time to do that. [2:21] Thank you. [2:30] Well, I think I can talk to you about that, but I think we do. [2:33] I'll just put her right to it. [2:35] That would be a good opportunity to do it. [2:37] Well, your follow-up on that is, they responded to that committee for a pretty good amount of time. [2:41] I don't think Carl heard of it. [2:44] Everybody else looked at it. [2:46] Carl was the first guy to do it. [2:47] I can't gather a group of cops when I do that. [2:51] You can't. [2:51] But I've got a few other people working on it. [2:55] Abel followed God and he's a responsible man. [2:59] How the devil can he be against this? [3:01] This is the one thing that is totally non-partisan. [3:05] Excuse me. [3:06] Both platforms, the 58 were foreign. [3:09] Talk about it. [3:10] McGarrett even is talking about it. [3:13] Oh, yes. [3:13] Oh, and this one, we had two guys on the drafting committee of the Democratic platform, and they said, we are for general revenue here. [3:21] Just bang. [3:23] No ifs, ands, or buts. [3:24] Right in the right words. [3:41] So I put it together. [3:45] John, John, he doesn't get into politics. [3:48] But I'll tell you, if he doesn't get around to it, we're going to kick his tail off. [3:55] I really haven't done anything wrong. [3:57] I've been to Congress, and I've been to senators, and I've been to mayors, and I've been to governors, and I've been to county ministers, and of course we've worked with the business community. [4:08] We've mailed stuff to them. [4:11] But we... [4:14] But, and also, let's face it, the Vice President can do lots of things, but I've given this to him as his first responsibility. [4:23] Well, there's a lot of work for me, and he's working. [4:25] All right. [4:26] Now, on the Congress thing, though, I'll work notes. [4:29] I'll do my best to put it. [4:31] I mean, not notes on the phone. [4:33] You've got those ready. [4:37] But the phone is hard to get out. [4:41] Thank you. [4:48] And so we want to talk to them. [4:53] You'll also want us on a base. [4:58] Oh, sure. [4:58] Oh, listen. [5:00] I think we haven't gotten to it. [5:06] Well, there's yours. [5:08] And the pen is the same. [5:10] That's Brandon's. [5:25] Thank you.