{"conversationCode":"757-004","tapeNumber":757,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-757-004","startDateTime":"1972-07-31T20:08:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-07-31T20:10:00.000Z","startDate":"31-Jul-1972","startTime":"4:08 PM","endDate":"31-Jul-1972","endTime":"4:10 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On July 31, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:08 pm to 4:10 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 757-004 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 757-4\n\nDate: July 31, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 4:08 pm and 4:10 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n     The President’s schedule\n          -Charles W. Colson's arrival\n          -Ronald L. Ziegler\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 4:10 pm.","filename":["757-004.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"757-003","nextCode":"757-005","transcript":[{"start":7.66,"end":8.45,"text":"Stay where you're hiding."},{"start":8.47,"end":10.22,"text":"You don't know if someone's over here."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his aide Stephen B. Bull in the Oval Office to coordinate logistics regarding upcoming appointments. The brief discussion focused on managing the arrivals of Charles W. Colson and Ronald L. Ziegler. The President provided specific instructions to Bull to maintain discretion regarding the location of personnel during these transitions.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Charles W. Colson","Ronald L. Ziegler","White House logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T03:59:15.618Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","charles-w-colson","ronald-l-ziegler","white-house-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":13,"audioFiles":[{"file":"757-004.mp3","bytes":323499,"durationSec":13.41,"bitrate":192941,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.689Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:28.484Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/757-004.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/757-004","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/757/conversation-757-004","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}