{"conversationCode":"758-013","tapeNumber":758,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-758-013","startDateTime":"1972-08-01T16:14:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-08-01T16:15:00.000Z","startDate":"1-Aug-1972","startTime":"12:14 PM","endDate":"1-Aug-1972","endTime":"12:15 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On August 1, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:14 pm and 12:15 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 758-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 758-13\n\nDate: August 1, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 12:14 pm and 12:15 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n             The President's schedule\n                 -Richard and Karen Carpenter\n                     -Press photograph\n                     -Manager [Sherwin Bash]\n                     -Gifts\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 12:15 pm.","filename":["758-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"758-012","nextCode":"758-014","transcript":[{"start":9.24,"end":14.04,"text":"I forgot about that."},{"start":16.89,"end":24.15,"text":"We'll be also asking them to assist us."},{"start":24.23,"end":25.05,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":25.31,"end":29.36,"text":"I was going to introduce the manager to you."},{"start":30.2,"end":32.78,"text":"He's the one who's going to be..."},{"start":33.28,"end":36.74,"text":"They have a... Why do you have..."},{"start":37.83,"end":41.53,"text":"I think we'll have to get the girl up."},{"start":41.55,"end":46.2,"text":"All right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Stephen B. Bull to coordinate a brief visit and photo opportunity with musical duo Richard and Karen Carpenter. The discussion focused on logistical arrangements, including the involvement of their manager, Sherwin Bash, and the presentation of gifts. The President specifically requested that Karen Carpenter be brought in for the engagement.","topics":["Richard Carpenter","Karen Carpenter","Public relations","White House photography","Sherwin Bash"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T12:45:39.717Z"},"topicSlugs":["richard-carpenter","karen-carpenter","public-relations","white-house-photography","sherwin-bash"],"audioDurationSec":56,"audioFiles":[{"file":"758-013.mp3","bytes":1347290,"durationSec":56.08,"bitrate":192195,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.689Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:28.656Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/758-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/758-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/758/conversation-758-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}