{"conversationCode":"763-007","tapeNumber":763,"conversationNumber":7,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-763-007","startDateTime":"1972-08-07T13:04:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-08-07T13:32:00.000Z","startDate":"7-Aug-1972","startTime":"9:04 AM","endDate":"7-Aug-1972","endTime":"9:32 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.; Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On August 7, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:04 am to 9:32 am. 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Colson.\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Personal returnable]\n[Duration: 3m         ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n       Administration's record\n           -Unemployment\n                  -Comparison between 1969 and 1972\n                  -Relationship to war in Vietnam\n                  -Public relations\n                         -Clark MacGregor\n                         -George S. McGovern\n                               -Herbert Stein\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2\n[Personal returnable]\n[Duration: 19m 14s    ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2\n*****************************************************************\n\nStephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 9:04 am.\n\n       The President’s Schedule\n            -Forthcoming meeting\n                  -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 9:32 am.\n\n       Polls\n               -George H. Gallup\n               -Louis P. Harris\n\nColson left at 9:32 am.","filename":["763-007.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Colson, Charles W.","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"763-006","nextCode":"763-008","transcript":[{"start":0.88,"end":22.69,"text":"Why is it that if you're going to say you had any on-line approach, you've got to take what they were when you came in and what they were now, and the number would then be, so maybe it's too late."},{"start":23.27,"end":24.73,"text":"What's the list?"},{"start":24.75,"end":25.81,"text":"Okay, that's my point."},{"start":25.89,"end":26.09,"text":"Right."},{"start":26.53,"end":29.11,"text":"It was pretty low then, around 3-4%."},{"start":29.71,"end":46.93,"text":"But nevertheless, the point that I make is that you can't say we've added unemployment, that I meant the unemployment rolls, when actually the, we had, it was one thing that you can just relate that to the war."},{"start":47.79,"end":49.15,"text":"That's the way it is."},{"start":49.21,"end":49.89,"text":"Oh, I see."},{"start":49.91,"end":50.15,"text":"Yes."},{"start":50.79,"end":56.68,"text":"That was a total of one of these four athletes right now."},{"start":56.76,"end":56.96,"text":"Yes."},{"start":65.1,"end":90.97,"text":"I read the full paper this morning before you got me."},{"start":91.06,"end":91.45,"text":"It's fun."},{"start":91.83,"end":93.78,"text":"It's an amateur's job."},{"start":93.84,"end":94.32,"text":"He uses..."},{"start":95.48,"end":99.37,"text":"Well, it's full of dishonesty, but it is not even professionally done."},{"start":99.59,"end":100.89,"text":"And they're assigned with the same reaction."},{"start":111.85,"end":112.43,"text":"They're all here."},{"start":112.49,"end":116.21,"text":"This is the first time they've seen each other."},{"start":116.25,"end":117.57,"text":"That's interesting."},{"start":117.77,"end":119.71,"text":"I say, I'll have that scalloped."},{"start":119.83,"end":122.65,"text":"It's been quite a weekend."},{"start":123.51,"end":128.89,"text":"We'll leave it and just bring that here or something."},{"start":128.91,"end":129.47,"text":"I have that, yes, sir."},{"start":130.51,"end":135.33,"text":"We're leaving the whole floor."},{"start":135.35,"end":135.63,"text":"Yes, yes, yes."},{"start":135.97,"end":137.07,"text":"Waiting room."},{"start":137.09,"end":137.37,"text":"Oh, yes, yes."},{"start":141.07,"end":146.27,"text":"That's the one that's coming up."},{"start":146.31,"end":147.93,"text":"Yeah, we can see that."},{"start":148.47,"end":148.63,"text":"Okay."},{"start":148.65,"end":149.19,"text":"I'm all ready, sir."}],"audioDurationSec":153,"audioFiles":[{"file":"763-007.mp3","bytes":3683891,"durationSec":153.43,"bitrate":192086,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.945Z","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon, Charles Colson, and Stephen Bull discussed the administration's record on unemployment, comparing figures from 1969 to 1972 and considering its relationship to the Vietnam War. 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