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Nixon, David & Dobrynin on U.S.-Soviet Relations

Friday, July 28, 1972 · 1:50 PM–1:57 PM ET · Oval Office ·7 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  David, Edward E., Jr. (Dr.);  Dobrynin, Anatoliy F.;  Belov, Evgeniy A.;  Pollack, Herman;  Granger, John;  Andrews, Nicholas;  Linder, Clarence;  Bisplinghoff, Raymond;  Owen, Thomas (Adm.);  Bartocha, Bodo;  Neureiter, Norman;  Fubini, Eugene (Dr.);  Astin, Alan;  Baldeschwieler, John D. (Dr.);  White House photographerConversation764-002 onTape 764StartFriday, July 28, 1972 at 1:50 PMEndFriday, July 28, 1972 at 1:57 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 764-002 ↗

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President Nixon hosted a signing ceremony in the Oval Office for the U.S.-Soviet Union Joint Commission on Science and Technology, formalizing a "Record of Discussions" to implement bilateral cooperation. Attendees, including Dr. Edward E. David, Jr. and Soviet Ambassador Anatoliy F. Dobrynin, highlighted the shift in diplomatic relations from confrontation to negotiation and cooperation. The participants emphasized that this agreement, which establishes six primary areas for research collaboration, serves the interests of both nations and the broader international community.

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change information, and our scientists have gone ahead with their research, and their scientists have gone ahead with their research.
In this instance, for the first time, we are having six major people co-operate between Soviet scientists
I can say that we believe that this agreement is typical of what we hope will continue to be the spirit of our meetings in Moscow.
From confrontation, we move first to negotiation.
I would like to just remind you all about this.
President Trump must be quiet.
He is the President of the United States of America.
He has quite enough of the leadership that we need in Moscow.
He is a little bit political too, but at the same time he is a good man.
science and technology.
We consider those agreements, both political and artistic, very important.
Today, almost two months past, we know to this effect that those agreements, which were signed by you, signed by this machine, are now really implemented in the lab.
This is important.
They are not only signed, but they really are being implemented into the course, into the practice, and we are looking forward
our side, or your side, to continue this preparation.
This new agreement is we are going to sign.
So you can authorize the president to sign.
So they will sign it, the German collision in Moscow.
This is a new example of a practical agreement that most people agree to sign in Moscow.
And I'm calling to the president to say that this particular
But our cooperation in science and technology is not a benefit for both of our people, but for all mankind.
It is clear that everybody will benefit from this kind of agreement.
So we are looking forward for the further strengthening of our relations, of our fulfillment of the agreement with the Shreya Khyentso.
That is going to be fulfilled.
We are looking for further, wider cooperation between our two great nations and two great countries.
Thank you very much.
I want you to know that we have no man.
Stay safe.
Thank you.

NARA Description

On July 28, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Dr. At the signing ceremony for the Records of Discussion, President Richard M. Nixon and Dr. Edward E. David, Jr., Anatoliy F. Dobrynin, Evgeniy A. Belov, Herman Pollack, John Granger, Nicholas Andrews, Clarence Linder, Raymond Bisplinghoff, Adm. Thomas Owen, Bodo Bartocha, Norman Neureiter, Dr. Eugene Fubini, Alan Astin, Dr. John D. Baldeschwieler, members of the press, and the White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 1:50 pm to 1:57 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 764-002 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 764-2

Date: July 28, 1972
Time: 1:50 pm - 1:57 pm
Location: Cabinet Room

The President met with Dr. Edward E. David, Jr., Anatoliy F. Dobrynin, Anatoliy Belov,
Herman Pollack, John Granger, Nicholas Andrews, Clarence Linder, Raymond Bisplinghoff,
Adm. Thomas Owen, Bobbo Bartocha, Norman Neureiter, Dr. Eugene Fubini, Alan Astin, and
John D. Baldeschwieler; members of the press and the White House photographer were also
present.

                                          (rev. Nov-03)

       Signing ceremony for “Record of Discussions” [US-Soviet Union Joint Commission on
       Science and Technology]
             -The President’s previous trip to the Soviet Union
                   -US-Soviet Union Agreement on Science and Technology
             -David’s previous trip to the Soviet Union
                   -Six areas of cooperation
             -Significance of signing ceremony
                   -US-Soviet Union cooperation in science and technology
                         -Compared with previous exchanges of information
                   -David
             -US-Soviet Union Joint Commission on Science and Technology
             -Dobrynin
             -US-Soviet Union Agreement on Science and Technology
                   -The President’s previous trip to the Soviet Union
                   -Evolution of US-Soviet Union relationship
                         -Confrontation
                         -Negotiation
                         -Cooperation
             -Dobrynin’s view
                   -The President
                   -Significance of agreement for the Soviet Union
                         -Leonid I. Brezhnev
                         -Cooperation of US and Soviet Union scientists
                               -Benefits

[Signing of “Record of Discussion”]

[Applause]

              -US-Soviet Union Agreement on Science and Technology
                   -Further cooperation
                   -Dobrynin
              -David’s view
                   -Importance of science to international relations

[Applause]

[General conversation]

The President et al. left at 1:57 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 764-002, July 28, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/764-002 (accessed September 18, 2026).