Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 765 › Conversation 765-005

Nixon & Bull on Public Relations and Dixy Lee Ray

Tuesday, August 8, 1972 · 10:31 AM–10:33 AM ET · Oval Office · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.Conversation765-005 on Tape 765StartTuesday, August 8, 1972 at 10:31 AMEndTuesday, August 8, 1972 at 10:33 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 765-005 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to coordinate upcoming administrative events, specifically a photo opportunity with Miss Teenage America and the swearing-in ceremony for Dixy Lee Ray. Nixon expressed concern over potential political embarrassments regarding the views of the teenage contestants, emphasizing his desire to avoid any public incidents. The President directed that scheduling move forward immediately, rejecting suggestions to delay the swearing-in ceremony for Dixy Lee Ray.

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NARA Description

On August 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:31 am and 10:33 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 765-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 765-5

Date: August 8, 1972
Time: Unknown between 10:31 am and 10:33 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull.

       The President’s schedule
            -[Forthcoming photograph opportunity with Miss Teenage America]
                  -Political views of Junior Miss contestants
                         -News summary
                         -The President’s view
                         -John E. Nidecker
            -Swearing-in ceremony for Dixy Lee Ray
                  -Timing
                  -Arrangements

                   -James R. Schlesinger

Bull left at an unknown time before 10:33 am.

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Well, I just need to know so that if so, I'm not going to bother with that infection every time I want something.

Yes, I understand.

It's an accident.

Somebody should have checked.

Do you remember the new summary?

Yes.

I remember one had said that, no, she was against the war or something like that.

Well, there were five of them, six of them, four of them.

I don't give a damn if she's for or against it.

I just don't want to have an incident here.

And it never hurts much to have such things happen.

Thank you.

As far as the swearing in, sir, would you like to wait a few minutes?

No, I'm ready right now.

All right, you might want to step in the back bed.

Also recorded on August 8, 1972

765-001 10:11 AM · 14 min — Hugh Scott, Gerald R. Ford, Richard K. Cook, Herbert G. Klein, Thomas C. Korologos, and President Richard M. Nixon met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:11 am to 10:25 am.
765-002 10:25 AM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:25 am and 10:30 am.
765-003 10:30 AM · 40 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, Hugh Scott, and Herbert G. Klein met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:30 am to 10:31 am.
765-004 10:31 AM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:31 am and 10:33 am.
765-006 10:31 AM · 11 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Dixy Lee Ray, Dr. James R. Schlesinger, James Raney, Clarence Larson, William Doub, Dewitt S. Hyde, Marion Reid, Barbara H. Franklin, Dr. Edward E. David, Jr., and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:31 am and 10:45 am.
765-007 10:45 AM · 14 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:45 am and 10:58 am.
765-008 10:45 AM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:45 am and 10:58 am.
765-009 10:45 AM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:45 am and 11:23 am.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 765-005, August 8, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/765-005 (accessed November 2, 2026).