{"conversationCode":"765-005","tapeNumber":765,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-765-005","startDateTime":"1972-08-08T14:31:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-08-08T14:33:00.000Z","startDate":"8-Aug-1972","startTime":"10:31 AM","endDate":"8-Aug-1972","endTime":"10:33 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On August 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:31 am and 10:33 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 765-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 765-5\n\nDate: August 8, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 10:31 am and 10:33 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       The President’s schedule\n            -[Forthcoming photograph opportunity with Miss Teenage America]\n                  -Political views of Junior Miss contestants\n                         -News summary\n                         -The President’s view\n                         -John E. Nidecker\n            -Swearing-in ceremony for Dixy Lee Ray\n                  -Timing\n                  -Arrangements\n\n                   -James R. Schlesinger\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 10:33 am.","filename":["765-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"765-004","nextCode":"765-006","transcript":[{"start":16.97,"end":23.65,"text":"Well, I just need to know so that if so, I'm not going to bother with that infection every time I want something."},{"start":23.67,"end":25.04,"text":"Yes, I understand."},{"start":25.05,"end":26.11,"text":"It's an accident."},{"start":26.16,"end":27.04,"text":"Somebody should have checked."},{"start":27.05,"end":28.61,"text":"Do you remember the new summary?"},{"start":28.64,"end":28.98,"text":"Yes."},{"start":29.2,"end":34.58,"text":"I remember one had said that, no, she was against the war or something like that."},{"start":34.62,"end":36.68,"text":"Well, there were five of them, six of them, four of them."},{"start":37,"end":39.52,"text":"I don't give a damn if she's for or against it."},{"start":39.54,"end":40.96,"text":"I just don't want to have an incident here."},{"start":41,"end":43.5,"text":"And it never hurts much to have such things happen."},{"start":46.17,"end":46.89,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":50.62,"end":52.96,"text":"As far as the swearing in, sir, would you like to wait a few minutes?"},{"start":53.04,"end":53.99,"text":"No, I'm ready right now."},{"start":54.35,"end":56.41,"text":"All right, you might want to step in the back bed."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to coordinate upcoming administrative events, specifically a photo opportunity with Miss Teenage America and the swearing-in ceremony for Dixy Lee Ray. Nixon expressed concern over potential political embarrassments regarding the views of the teenage contestants, emphasizing his desire to avoid any public incidents. The President directed that scheduling move forward immediately, rejecting suggestions to delay the swearing-in ceremony for Dixy Lee Ray.","topics":["Richard Nixon","Stephen B. Bull","Public Relations","Presidential Scheduling","Dixy Lee Ray","Miss Teenage America"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T23:07:15.339Z"},"topicSlugs":["richard-nixon","stephen-b-bull","public-relations","presidential-scheduling","dixy-lee-ray","miss-teenage-america"],"audioDurationSec":92,"audioFiles":[{"file":"765-005.mp3","bytes":2208704,"durationSec":91.96,"bitrate":192144,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.945Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:29.747Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/765-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/765-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/765/conversation-765-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}