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Start Date: 8-Aug-1972 11:23 AM

End Date: 8-Aug-1972 12:05 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Butterfield, Alexander P.Ehrlichman, John D.White House operatorSanchez, ManoloHuff, SamBull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

765-012.mp3

NARA Description:

On August 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander P. Butterfield, John D. Ehrlichman, White House operator, Manolo Sanchez, Sam Huff, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:23 am to 12:05 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 765-012 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 765-12

Date: August 8, 1972
Time: 11:23 am - 12:05 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Alexander P. Butterfield.

       The President's schedule
            -H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman's role
                  -Responsibilities
                         -Campaign
                         -White House operations
                               -Lawrence M. Higby
            -Butterfield
                  -Responsibilities
                         -Scheduling
                         -Administrative matters
                         -Daily schedule
                         -Scheduling
                               -Dwight L. Chapin
                                    -David N. Parker
            -Example of the President’s forthcoming meeting with Miss Teenage America
            -Parker
            -Haldeman
            -Parker
            -Chapin
                  -Scheduling of external events
            -Parker
                  -Example of the President’s forthcoming meeting with Miss Teenage
                  America
                  -Example of swearing-in ceremony for Dixy Lee Ray
            -Haldeman's role
            -Parker
                  -Competence
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                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. Nov-03)

                  -Possible replacement for Haldeman
                  -Butterfield
                  -Schedule plan
                         -Haldeman
                         -Chapin
                         -Examples
                               -Swearing-in ceremonies
                               -Miss Teenage America
                               -Republican leadership meeting
                               -Floyd Patterson
                               -Possible trips to Camp David
            -Haldeman
            -Possible revenue sharing bill signing ceremony
            -Haldeman, Butterfield, and Parker
            -Higby
            -Parker
                  -Plan for President's schedule
                         -Weekly plan
                         -Monthly plan
                         -Haldeman's review
            -Butterfield's responsibilities
                  -Leadership and Cabinet meetings
                  -Meetings with White House staff
                         -Daily schedule review
                  -Haldeman

John D. Ehrlichman entered at 11:29 am.

       The President’s schedule
            -Possible daily meetings with the President
                  -Butterfield
                  -Parker
            -Haldeman
            -Revenue sharing bill signing ceremony
            -The President's forthcoming meeting with Soviet health minister [Boris V.
            Petrovsky]
                  -Henry A. Kissinger
                  -Timing
                         -Petrovsky’s location
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                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Nov-03)

                   -The President's forthcoming trip to Camp David
                         -Timing
              -The President’s forthcoming meeting at Camp David
                   -Briefing by White House staff
                   -George W. Romney briefing
                         -The President's attendance
                                -The President’s meeting with Petrovsky
                   -Timing
                   -Romney briefing
                         -Notice to William P. Rogers
                         -Timing
                         -Length of briefing
                   -Cocktails
                   -The President's meeting with Petrovsky
                         -Kissinger
                   -Number of attendees
                         -Robert J. Dole
                         -Elliot L. Richardson
                                -Dinner with Petrovsky
                   -Romney
                         -Return from Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania
                   -Rogers
                   -Transportation
                         -Helicopters
                         -Cars
                         -Dwight D. Eisenhower administration
                                -Helicopter for Eisenhower
                                -Cars for staff
              -Haldeman's role

Butterfield left at 11:36 am.

       The President's schedule
            -Parker's role
                  -Haldeman
            -Meeting with Miss Teenage America
            -Swearing-in for Ray

The White House operator talked with the President at an unknown time between 11:36 am and
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                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Nov-03)

11:41 am.

[Conversation No. 765-12A]

[See Conversation No. 29-39]

[End of telephone conversation]

       Office of Economic Opportunity [OEO] bill
             -President's position
             -Congressional actions
                   -Authorization
                   -Board of directors
                          -Jacob K. Javits [?]
             -Continuing resolution
             -Rallying point for R. Sargent Shriver
             -Howard Phillips
             -Continuing resolution
             -Possible veto

Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 11:36 am.

       Refreshments

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 11:41 am.

       OEO
             -Ehrlichman's previous meeting with Peter H. Dominick

       Unemployment
           -Michigan
                -Robert P. Griffin
                -Productivity of automobile industry
                -William G. Milliken
                      -Work with automobile industry

       Airline hijacking
             -Ehrlichman
             -Penalties
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                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Nov-03)

             -Polling
             -Procedures for prevention
             -Ehrlichman's previous meeting with airline presidents
                   -Delta Airline
                         -Previous hijacking incident
             -Airline cooperation
                   -Sealing of stairways


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 3m 10s     ]


The President talked with Sam Huff between 11:41 am and 11:44 am.

[Conversation No. 765-12b]

[See Conversation No. 29-40; one item has been withdrawn.]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2

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       Water quality bill
            -Veto prospects

Butterfield entered at 11:45 am.

       The President's schedule
            -Haldeman
            -Possible meeting with John B. Connally
                  -Bryce N. Harlow
                  -Connally’s forthcoming announcement
            -Forthcoming Camp David meeting
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                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. Nov-03)

                    -John N. Mitchell
                          -[Martha (Beall) Mitchell]

Butterfield left at 11:47 am.


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[Personal returnable]
[Duration:    25s     ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3

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       The President’s schedule
            -Forthcoming Camp David meeting
                  -John Mitchell
                         -Martha Mitchell

       Water quality bill
            -Memorandum from Howard H. Baker, Jr.
            -Congressional conference
            -Costs of bill
            -President's veto
                  -Likelihood
                          -Compared with Department of Labor and Health, Education and
                          Welfare [HEW] bill appropriations
            -Edmund S. Muskie
                  -Work in conference on costs
            -President's signal to Congress
                  -Baker’s reaction
                          -The President’s view
                               -Black lung legislation
                                     -Caspar W. (“Cap”)Weinberger
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                NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                               Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. Nov-03)

Labor and HEW appropriations bill
     -Gerald R. Ford
     -Forthcoming veto

End the war resolution
      -Hugh Scott
      -Memorandum for the President from William E. Timmons
      -News summary
      -William B. Saxbe
      -Scott
             -Ehrlichman’s view
      -Kissinger
             -Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson amendment
      -Saxbe
             -Criticism of White House
      -Scott
             -Alienation of Republicans

Jackson amendment
     -Kissinger

Scott
        -George D. Aiken amendment
        -Dealings with William E. Timmons and Thomas C. Korologos

Unemployment issue
    -Herbert Stein
    -Weinberger
    -William L. Safire
    -Stein
           -Compared to Paul W. McCracken
    -Increase in jobs
           -Increase in peace time jobs
           -Decrease of defense related jobs
           -Norris Cotton
    -Publicity
           -Fact sheets
           -Need for slogans
                 -Spending ceiling
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                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Nov-03)

                         -Taxes
                   -George S. McGovern's slogans
              -Need for publicity
                   -Safires work
                         -Ehrlichman’s view
                   -Robert H. Finch's assistant
                   -Patrick J. Buchanan
                         -Negative phrases
                   -Safire
                         -Problems with phraseology
                   -White House staff
                   -Herbert G. Klein
                         -The President’s view
                   -Korologos
                   -Timmons
                   -Ronald L. Ziegler
                   -Klein
                   -Kenneth R. Cole, Jr. and Ehrlichman
                   -Weinberger
                   -Possible slogans
                         -McGovern's proposals
                                -Tax increases
                   -Publicity
                         -Use of White House resources
                         -Use of Committee to Re-elect the President [CRP] resources

Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 11:47 am.

       Figs
              -Shipment [from San Clemente]
                   -Aircraft
                         -Unknown military aide
                   -Frequency

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 12:05 pm.

       White House kitchen renovation
            -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
            -Haldeman
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                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Nov-03)

                  -Herbert W. Kalmbach
                       -Schedule


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 3m 27s     ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4

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Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:47 am.

       The President's forthcoming meeting with Miss Teenage America and
       Clarence E. Miller

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:05 pm.


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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
[Personal returnable]
[Duration:    47s     ]


END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5

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       Public relations
             -Slogans
                    -Tax reform
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                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. Nov-03)

                         -George P. Shultz's paper
                               -Ehrlichman’s view
                                     -McGovern
                                     -Property tax
                                          -Treasury Department
                                          -Need for statements
             -Property taxes
                  -1969 reforms
                  -Pre-reform figures
                         -Use by McGovern
                  -Possible statement by the Administration
                         -Impact of reforms

       Lawrence F. O’Brien, Jr. investigation
            -Possible appearance for tax audit
                  -Timing
                  -Possible subpoena

       Robert D. (“Bobby”) Baker
            -The President’s forthcoming conversation with Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo

       Justice Department, Interior Department
             -Files
                    -Henry L. Kimelman
                          -John Mitchell
                    -Shriver
                          -White House file
                          -Justice Department
                          -Internal Revenue Service [IRS]
                    -Kimelman
                          -Interior Department investigation

Butterfield entered at an unknown time after 11:47 am.

       Call from Tricia Nixon Cox

Butterfield left at an unknown time before 12:05 pm.

Ehrlichman left at 12:05 pm.
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                        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
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