{"conversationCode":"765-021","tapeNumber":765,"conversationNumber":21,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-765-021","startDateTime":"1972-08-08T16:24:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-08-08T16:26:00.000Z","startDate":"8-Aug-1972","startTime":"12:24 PM","endDate":"8-Aug-1972","endTime":"12:26 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; White House operator;","description":"On August 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:24 pm to 12:26 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 765-021 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 765-21\n\nDate: August 8, 1972\nTime: 12:24 pm - 12:26 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Alexander P. Butterfield and Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       Floyd Patterson\n            -Size\n            -The President’s previous meeting with Sugar Ray Robinson\n\nThe President talked to the White House operator at an unknown time between 12:24 pm and\n12:26 pm.\n\n[Conversation No. 765-21A]\n\n[See Conversation No. 29-43]\n\n[End of telephone conversation]\n\n       H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman’s schedule\n             -Andrews Air Force Base\n\n             -Camp David\n\nButterfield and Bull left at 12:26 pm.","filename":["765-021.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B.","White House operator"],"prevCode":"765-020","nextCode":"765-022","transcript":[{"start":3.32,"end":5.54,"text":"He doesn't look that big."},{"start":5.62,"end":7.16,"text":"Oh, he looks like about 165."},{"start":7.22,"end":8.66,"text":"He's so solid."},{"start":8.68,"end":11.24,"text":"Sugar Ray Robinson."},{"start":11.26,"end":12.24,"text":"Two years ago, we met."},{"start":59.14,"end":59.53,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":88.71,"end":88.99,"text":"Oh, yes."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Stephen B. Bull and Alexander P. Butterfield to discuss the physical stature of boxer Floyd Patterson following a previous encounter with Sugar Ray Robinson. The group briefly assessed Patterson's size before transitioning into administrative matters, specifically reviewing H.R. Haldeman's upcoming travel schedule to Andrews Air Force Base and Camp David. The brief exchange concluded with the departure of Bull and Butterfield.","topics":["Floyd Patterson","Sugar Ray Robinson","H.R. Haldeman","Presidential scheduling","Boxing"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T23:08:45.189Z"},"topicSlugs":["floyd-patterson","sugar-ray-robinson","h-r-haldeman","presidential-scheduling","boxing"],"audioDurationSec":95,"audioFiles":[{"file":"765-021.mp3","bytes":2272025,"durationSec":94.6,"bitrate":192137,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.945Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:29.751Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/765-021.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/765-021","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/765/conversation-765-021","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}