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I don't want to go to the embassy.

That's what it will be.

That's correct.

Mr. Simmons, Dr. Kofsky, President.

Yes, how do you do?

Well, and right after this event, I'm about to start the event.

Mr. President, how are you?

Nice to see you.

Mr.

Ambassador, how are you?

Nice to see you.

Great.

Well, let's sit down.

I know, I know.

Let's sit over here.

Well, I'm just from the ship to the wall.

What?

I'm straight from the ship to the wall.

Yes.

Yes, come in.

Sit over here.

I saw everything from participation in an open-heart operation with Dr. DeBakey to visiting Disneyland.

Oh!

The Center for Disease Control.

You say more than I have.

Dr. DeBakey.

Yes.

By the way, we changed the formation by the medical instruments also.

But we consider, Mr. Minister, the initiatives in the field of health, which we negotiated in Moscow, to be very important.

It's an area that's totally non-controversial.

You will have a complete cooperation, you and your colleagues, secretary, doctor, all of our people.

people of Soviet Union, obviously American people, to be able to help us.

We can all do that.

Well, all these are close to the mission of the humanity.

Right.

That's all?

Yes, that's all.

We're very good.

It won't go away.

times that he, you know, was the toasting master of Georgia.

The toasting master.

I mean, I would drink more.

We saw a lot of medical centers here.

And our estimation of all the progress in the medical science which we witnessed in these centers is magnificent.

you know, that the health centers which we saw in New York, Martin Luther King, and Kaiser Foundation near San Francisco, and I would be sorry, you know, sadly, you know, in Mexico, but it's a very, very interesting assessment, you know, here to the population.

One thing I've been very impressed with on my visit to the Soviet Union

What do you want to do?

Distributed care, they have certainly a more uniform distribution of access.

Arranged them.

How long have you been there?

Seven years.

Well, from the start of August, I was the president.

This is also the head of the August... Well, I would like to mention one thing.

In fact, seven years ago, in August of 2016,

I was here in the United States as a professor, you know.

And on this very day, on the top of August, I got a paper from Moscow that I was appointed Minister of Health of the U.S.S.A.

In New York.

and American papers published a small event, you know, they published a portrait of mine, which was 10 years old, they thought it was handsome and young, you know.

Seven years.

One thing I wanted to say in a personal sense, I wish you a very good...

I think it was a good innovation to build a school in East Long Island.

I think it was probably seen as the best thing that I was able to do.

You talk about the progression that we're seeing, and our other friends that we met that we wanted to take good care of themselves.

They were leaders of a great nation, and they held those leaders enormously important for themselves.

The nation has been, you know,

They like that, too.

Yeah, that's true.

As the Minister of Health, I'm very grateful for such wish.

As the Minister of Health, I have a role to take the role of our leaders.

This is very important responsibility of my ministry and I can proudly say

that they are very healthy now, and I'm sure they will be healthy for many, many years.

They're healthy, they have great stamina.

They work, you know, tremendously, very hard.

But my approach is each man has to have his own leap of life.

One thing that you do in your government, which we don't do adequately, is to be sure that the leaders take some vacations.

I mean, like Mr. President told me about that.

I mean, it's a very, very good rule.

Well, Moscow is a wonderful place.

It's very healthy.

It's a beautiful country.

No, we are now right in the city of Rome.

That tells both.

That tells the man.

Now, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh,

We're...

Do you feel that, in a way, that the initiatives that we've done on the health side should have paid the way for the initiatives that we have now undertaken in these political areas?

I think that the initiative and the first decisions that were made on the issue of the United States greatly contributed to our standards, to our success in the political sphere.

Mr. President, you said that the Russian people are in control.

And I would like to say also that in your country, in our country, the community of medical doctors is also very mentioned.

Oh, yes.

I understand.

Thank you.

Tomorrow I hope to meet your secretary and to have a final round of discussion.

Thank you.

Well, I consider and we all consider that in the field of cancer and cardiovascular diseases, our approach and our successes are really considerable.

In the field of violence, I don't think that we make such big decisions.

Because a limited set of first-line, you know, huge number of the problems related to their life.

But I speak in this case about medical side of the market, right?

I have all my specifications, I think, because it is domestic.

And if you have some new problems,

discussing on a final date that is our own efforts in finding a plan which is very right.

But if you are dealing with some other infectious diseases, you are .

I hope to discuss this progress with the Secretary and then on the working level in our joint commissions to finalize it.

But I have one question which does not seem important.

Right?

That's about it.

You know what we are.

Again, you can try to get along with me.

This is a very serious problem.

No, but I'm telling you, it's a very serious problem.

Of course, you know, this problem is positive.

I mean, everything matches.

I mean, a lot of others, right?

Yeah.

I do, do, do.

It's really an allergy.

It's an allergy.

Yes, watching your hands, very close to each other.

I mean, I described my daughter for the tremendous amount of drugs which they prescribed in this case.

I think we could find each other, at least.

As far as cancer is concerned, Senator Taft had cancer, and John Washington also had cancer.

But in our greatest, it's interesting to note, Alan Dulles suffered terribly.

I'm not sure if you remember this, but I'm sure you've seen this.

He was very young at the time, and very certain.

Long story short, he was very sick, and terrible heart disease.

Could we explore the possibility of a cause?

I wanted to

You have a little memento, it's a small thing, but the CEO of the President of the United States, the President was there, and also in July, he was there, and I know he had some areas that accompanied, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.

All right.

Yeah.

Well, that's very good.

We'll put it in our journal.

Yeah.

I want to say this.

I want to be sure that...

Well, I mean, it's just very sad to see it.

I mean, it's such a long process.

Goodbye.

Thank you very much.

Goodbye.

Thank you.

All right, time to get a ride out.

You can't take it with you.

Come back and stop and go.