{"conversationCode":"767-011","tapeNumber":767,"conversationNumber":11,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-767-011","startDateTime":"1972-08-11T13:28:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-08-11T13:35:00.000Z","startDate":"11-Aug-1972","startTime":"9:28 AM","endDate":"11-Aug-1972","endTime":"9:35 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Butterfield, Alexander P.; Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On August 11, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander P. Butterfield, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:28 am and 9:35 am. 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Kissinger\n            -Butterfield’s role in planning the schedule\n\nThe President entered at an unknown time after 9:28 am.\n\n       The President's schedule\n            -Kissinger’s schedule\n                  -Meeting with unknown Senator\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 9:35 am.\n\n                                        (rev. Nov-03)\n\n       The President's schedule\n            -Activities for the following week\n                  -Possible meeting with the Committee on the Aging\n                  -Possible meeting with Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan\n                  -Possible meeting with Clark MacGregor and John N. Mitchell\n                  -H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman\n                  -Possible meeting with unknown person\n                         -The President’s previous trip to Ireland\n                         -White House tour\n                  -Possible Council on International Economic Policy [CIEP] Executive\n                  Committee meeting\n                  -Atomic Energy Commission [AEC]\n                  -Possible meeting with Ronald W. Reagan\n                         -Republican National Convention\n                         -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.\n                               -MacGregor\n                         -Timing\n                  -Possible meeting with Joseph T. DeSilva\n                         -Retail clerks union\n                  -Possible meeting with White House summer interns\n                  -Meeting with MacGregor\n                         -Time\n                  -The President’s desire for an open schedule\n                  -Meeting with Moynihan\n                  -Meeting with DeSilva\n                  -Meeting with MacGregor\n                  -Meeting with DeSilva\n                         -Republican National Convention\n                         -San Clemente, California\n            -Forthcoming meeting with Deborah (Murray) Sloan\n                  -Lucy A. Winchester\n                  -Parents\n                  -Bull\n            -Possible meeting with White House interns\n\nButterfield left at an unknown time before 9:35 am.","filename":["767-011.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Butterfield, Alexander P.","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"767-010","nextCode":"767-012","transcript":[{"start":18.11,"end":26.2,"text":"It's too much to say, but it's... You can schedule it in the place that you want."},{"start":27.26,"end":28.7,"text":"Yeah, that's what he wanted to do."},{"start":28.72,"end":34.88,"text":"Not really."},{"start":36.36,"end":38.28,"text":"President Henry's... Yeah, yeah."},{"start":38.3,"end":40.34,"text":"It'll be all right."},{"start":40.36,"end":43,"text":"It'll be all right."},{"start":68.69,"end":72.55,"text":"Aging initiatives, which are all right."},{"start":72.67,"end":76.91,"text":"And another one was to see Pat Moynihan for about 10 minutes."},{"start":76.97,"end":78.45,"text":"He's coming right now."},{"start":78.53,"end":80.25,"text":"Monday's all right."},{"start":80.45,"end":85,"text":"And McGregor and Mitchell."},{"start":85.1,"end":88.06,"text":"McGregor says he needs 10 minutes on Monday."},{"start":88.14,"end":90.6,"text":"He needs to see him in the afternoon."},{"start":92.9,"end":93.32,"text":"That's fine."},{"start":95.08,"end":95.98,"text":"Well, this is beautiful."},{"start":96.03,"end":96.48,"text":"Let's do it all."},{"start":107.36,"end":110.36,"text":"Okay, well, Tuesday we won't go."},{"start":110.46,"end":113.67,"text":"Oh, you've got some things already on Tuesday that Bob has talked to you about."},{"start":113.95,"end":115.23,"text":"Well, we're going to cancel those."},{"start":115.25,"end":119.11,"text":"Yeah, well, one very small thing, this Irish show that met you in Ireland was coming in."},{"start":119.77,"end":120.45,"text":"That's the only thing."},{"start":120.47,"end":121.25,"text":"We can't do that."},{"start":121.27,"end":122.95,"text":"I won't be here Tuesday."},{"start":123.93,"end":124.21,"text":"Okay."},{"start":124.25,"end":125.25,"text":"We'll let that go."},{"start":126.11,"end":128.78,"text":"Give it to her."},{"start":128.81,"end":130.08,"text":"What else do you have?"},{"start":130.16,"end":132.12,"text":"Well, the other things I have on Tuesday, we'll forget."},{"start":132.24,"end":134.86,"text":"One was the CIEP, Executive Committee meeting."},{"start":148.04,"end":154.7,"text":"He got to see him en route to the convention as he comes to Washington."},{"start":154.72,"end":157.86,"text":"And the proposal was Friday the 18th, and he's back for the day."},{"start":157.88,"end":158.46,"text":"That's the only thing."},{"start":180.08,"end":180.76,"text":"Late in the day."},{"start":181.42,"end":183.18,"text":"What time do you want?"},{"start":183.22,"end":184.94,"text":"There's no time."},{"start":185,"end":186.18,"text":"Just Friday."},{"start":186.54,"end":190.02,"text":"Well, put it in so it doesn't knock the day out."},{"start":190.16,"end":192.59,"text":"I won't be here except for just that meeting."},{"start":193.53,"end":197.71,"text":"You don't know the time."},{"start":198.03,"end":199.57,"text":"Well, there was no time."},{"start":199.85,"end":202.77,"text":"Well, work out a time that doesn't break the whole day if you can."},{"start":209.21,"end":209.94,"text":"Joe DeSilva."},{"start":255.43,"end":264.13,"text":"I heard they wanted most of the things between eleven thirty twelve"},{"start":297.91,"end":299.69,"text":"Try to get to Sova scheduled for Monday."},{"start":299.73,"end":300.03,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":300.05,"end":300.55,"text":"Five minutes."},{"start":300.95,"end":301.87,"text":"Try to."},{"start":301.93,"end":303.67,"text":"I don't believe you."},{"start":304.79,"end":305.79,"text":"And there has to be money."},{"start":306.21,"end":306.97,"text":"There has to be money."},{"start":307.55,"end":313.09,"text":"Otherwise, if Sova arranges her back to the convention, and I'll see you in California, San Juan."},{"start":313.21,"end":313.75,"text":"You understand?"},{"start":313.77,"end":314.01,"text":"Sure."},{"start":314.31,"end":323.6,"text":"Just tell them that's the... Today, I'd like to remind Debbie Summer, Lucy Winchester is right here."},{"start":323.8,"end":326.14,"text":"Well, it's been four years."},{"start":326.42,"end":327.66,"text":"Ah, it's been four years."},{"start":332.06,"end":335.83,"text":"That sort of thing can always be done."},{"start":335.91,"end":338.23,"text":"It's just too bad."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Alexander P. Butterfield and Stephen B. Bull to coordinate his upcoming schedule and streamline his commitments. The discussion focused on prioritizing meetings with key political figures, including Henry Kissinger, Daniel P. Moynihan, and the duo of Clark MacGregor and John N. Mitchell, while clearing unnecessary appointments from the calendar. 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