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Start Date: 11-Aug-1972 12:23 PM

End Date: 11-Aug-1972 1:02 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Johnson, Donald E.Evans, John F., Jr.Ehrlichman, John D.Bull, Stephen B.White House photographerZiegler, Ronald L.Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)Kendall, Donald McI.Kendall, Donald McI. (Mrs.)Kendall, Donald McI., Jr.Kendall, Kent C.Flanigan, Peter M.White House photographer

Recording Device: Oval Office

767-021.mp3

NARA Description:

On August 11, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Donald E. Johnson, John F. Evans, Jr., John D. Ehrlichman, Stephen B. Bull and White House photographer, Ronald L. Ziegler, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon, Donald McI. Kendall, Mrs. Donald McI. Kendall, Donald McI. Kendall, Jr., Kent C. Kendall, Peter M. Flanigan, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:23 pm to 1:02 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 767-021 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 767-21

Date: August 11, 1972
Time: 12:23 pm - 1:02 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Donald E. Johnson, John F. Evans, Jr., and John D. Ehrlichman; Stephen
B. Bull and the White House photographer were present at the beginning of the meeting.

       Greetings

       The President's schedule
            -George W. Romney's report on Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania

       Photographs
            -Arrangements

       1972 election
            -Veteran organization conventions
            -Republican National Convention
            -George S. McGovern's schedule
                   -Veterans of Foreign Wars [VFW] convention
                         -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
            -The President's schedule
                   -American Legion convention
            -Agnew’s forthcoming appearance at the VFW convention
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              NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                              Tape Subject Log
                                (rev. Nov-03)


Veterans Administration [VA] administrator
     -Cost of Living Council [COLC]
     -Johnson’s appointment to the Domestic Council
           -Domestic Council compared to the National Security Council [NSC]
     -Publicity in veterans press
           -Cabinet status of VA
                  -Central Intelligence Agency [CIA]
                  -Atomic Energy Commission [AEC]

Veterans affairs
     -Legislation
            -Cemetery bill [National Cemeteries Act]
                  -Department of Defense
     -Possible transfer of hospital from Public Health Service [PHS] to VA
            -Galveston, Texas
     -Legislation
            -The Administration’s support
                  -Social Security
                  -Veterans
                        -Johnson’s efforts
                              -Olin E. (“Tiger”) Teague
                              -Charles M. Teague
                              -William E. Timmons
            -Education bill
                  -Senate committee
                  -Olin Teague
                  -Senate Republicans
            -Medical bill
                  -Possible cuts
            -Cemetery bill
                  -Senate
            -Veto possibility
                  -“Instant Medical School” bill
                        -Olin Teague
                        -Opposition by the Administration
                        -Temple, Texas
                              -Possible pilot project
                                     -The President’s view
                                           -Otto E. Passman
            -Olin Teague
                                       43

               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                               Tape Subject Log
                                 (rev. Nov-03)

                 -The President's view
                 -Support for the President on national security
                 -Work with Democrats for Nixon
                      -John B. Connally
                      -A VA hospital director
                             -Carl A. Hatch Act
     -Johnson's work
          -Schedule before election
                 -Hatch Act
                 -Travel in key states
                      -New York
                      -Pennsylvania
                      -Ohio
                      -Illinois
                      -Michigan
                      -California
                      -Texas
                      -Talks with veterans and labor organizations
                             -Subjects
                                    -Armed services
                                    -Amnesty
                                    -National defense
          -Speeches
                 -Regional talk shows
                      -National defense

Johnson's schedule
     -Speeches
            -W. Ramsey Clark
                 -Statements from Hanoi
            -McGovern
                 -Comments on J. Edgar Hoover
                 -Support for Clark
                       -Possible Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI] director
            -Amnesty issue
                 -Attack on McGovern
            -Johnson’s previous speeches at state veterans conventions
                 -Support for the President
                       -May 8, 1972 decision
                             -Mining
                             -Bombing
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               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. Nov-03)

                        -Amnesty issue
            -Johnson’s trips to states
                  -Previous Cabinet meeting
                  -Appearances at state veterans conventions
                  -Other appearances
                        -Chamber of Commerce events
                        -Fundraisers
                        -Television shows
            -Los Angeles trip
                  -Marine Corps League national convention
                        -Gen. Robert E. Cushman, Jr.
            -Concern for Vietnam veterans
                  -Contrasted with concern for draft evaders
            -Los Angeles trip
                  -Appearance on KNBC
                        -Meet the Press style format
            -Amnesty
                  -The President’s view
                  -World War II experience
            -Jobs for veterans
                  -Servicemen returning to civilian workforce
                  -Decrease in unemployment
                  -Government service
                        -Number of Vietnam veterans working in VA
                  -The Administration’s responsiveness to veterans
                        -Joint program between VA and former Chairman of Equitable
                        Life
                        -Administration's record
                        -Civil service

George C. Wallace
     -Physical condition
           -Possible move date
           -Facilities in the governor’s mansion
                 -Equipment
                 -Personnel
     -Forthcoming call from Johnson
           -Cornelia Wallace
                 -Message from the President
                         -Offer of Johnson’s services
           -Use of White House operator
                                                  45

                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. Nov-03)

                   -Johnson’s possible visit with George Wallace

       Johnson's schedule
            -Travel

       Presentation of Presidential gifts
            -Cuff links

       The President’s daughter's visit to Iowa

       Presentation of Presidential gifts
            -Johnson’s wife

Johnson and Evans left and Ziegler entered at 12:41 pm.

       The President's forthcoming meeting with Donald McI. Kendall family
            -Cabinet Room

The President left at an unknown time after 12:41 pm.

       The President's schedule
            -Previous meeting with Johnson

Bull entered at an unknown time after 12:41 pm.

       Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon's schedule
            -Meeting with the Kendall family
                  -Gold dessert service
                        -The President’s trip to the People’s Republic of China [PRC]

The President entered and Bull left at an unknown time before 12:44 pm.

       Romney
           -Announcement to press
                -Desire to return to private life
                      -Romney’s previous meeting with the President
                             -Public service
                             -The President's request for Romney to remain
                                   -Housing
                                   -Wilkes-Barre program
                -Future plans
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                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. Nov-03)

             -Post Republican National Convention plans
                   -Romney’s forthcoming visit to San Clemente
                        -Timing of departure

Ehrlichman left at 12:44 pm.

       Milton J. Shapp

       R. Sargent Shriver
             -Shriver’s resignation letter
                   -Release by the State Department
                         -William P. Rogers
                         -State Department bureaucracy
             -Ziegler’s meeting with Hugh S. Sidey
                   -Sidey’s comments on McGovern
                   -Questions for Shriver on Meet the Press
                         -Shriver’s resignation letter
                         -Shriver’s request to remain in the administration
                               -Ehrlichman
                                      -Sidey’s possible meeting with Ehrlichman

Bull entered at 12:45 pm.

       Mrs. Nixon’s schedule

       Release of Shriver’s resignation letter

Mrs. Nixon entered and Ziegler left at 12:45 pm.

       The President's schedule
            -The President's meeting with Deborah (Murray) Sloan
                  -Timing
                         -Meeting with Kendalls
                  -Sloan’s pregnancy
                  -Sloan’s parents
                  -Mrs. Nixon’s participation
                         -Mrs. Nixon’s previous meeting with Sloan
            -The President's meeting with Kendall family
                  -Gifts
                         -Possible gift to Donald Kendall
                         -Kendall’s gifts to the President
                                                47

                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. Nov-03)

                               -Golf clubs
                               -Golf balls
                         -Kendall sons
                         -Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins
                         -Sigrid Irmgard (Baroness Ruedt von Collenberg) (“Bim”) Kendall
                               -Pin

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:47 pm.


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Donald Kendall, Sigrid Kendall, Donald McI. Kendall, Jr., Kent C. Kendall and Peter M.
Flanigan entered at 12:47 pm; the White House photographer was present at the beginning of the
meeting.

       Greetings

       Introduction of children
             -Donald Kendall, Jr.
             -Kent Kendall

       Gift presentation to the President
             -Gold dessert service
                   -Manufacturing process
                   -Exclusion from future presidential library
                   -Julie Nixon Eisenhower
                   -Edward R.F. and Tricia Nixon Cox

       Photographs
            -Arrangements
                                       48

               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                Tape Subject Log
                                  (rev. Nov-03)


Oval Office description
     -George Washington
     -Music box
     -Flags of the armed forces
           -Army
           -Navy
           -Air Force
           -Marine Corps
           -Coast Guard

Washington Monument

Donald Kendall
     -Pepsico
           -Products
                -Golf clubs

Publications
      -Expenditures
            -Color printing
            -Advertisements
            -Coca Cola
            -Democrats, Republicans

Photograph
     -Deaf boy [Michael Newton?]
           -Previous visit with the President
           -Instrument in ear

Presentation of Presidential gifts
     -Viewfinder
            -Apollo program
     -Tie clasp
     -Trinket
     -Cuff links
     -Pin
     -Putter
            -Presidential seal
            -Presidential signature
                                                49

                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                        Tape Subject Log
                                          (rev. Nov-03)

       [Business and Industry for the Re-election of the President?]
            -Boston
            -Chicago
            -Denver
            -Pittsburgh
            -Dallas
            -Unknown person's schedule
                   -Seattle, Dallas
            -Regional chairmen
            -City organizations
                   -Businessmen

       Dwarf tree
            -PRC

       Pandas
            -Photograph
            -National Zoo
            -PRC

       Rose Garden

       Donald Kendall

       Golf clubs
             -Possible use as head of state gifts
                   -Kakuei Tanaka
                         -Eisaku Sato
                         -Tanaka

Mrs. Nixon et al. left at 1:02 pm.