{"conversationCode":"768-002","tapeNumber":768,"conversationNumber":2,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-768-002","startDateTime":"1972-08-14T12:45:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-08-14T13:00:00.000Z","startDate":"14-Aug-1972","startTime":"8:45 AM","endDate":"14-Aug-1972","endTime":"9:00 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Buchanan, Patrick J.; Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On August 14, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Patrick J. Buchanan, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:45 am and 9:00 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 768-002 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 768-2\n\nDate: August 14, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 8:45 am and 9:00 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\n                                       (rev. Nov-03)\n\nThe President dictated a memorandum to Patrick J. Buchanan.\n\n            Memorandum\n               -H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman\n               -Buchanan\n               -Fact sheet\n                   -Tricia Nixon Cox\n                   -Edward R.F. Cox\n                   -Julie Nixon Eisenhower\n\n            Economy\n               -Fact sheets\n                   -Herbert Stein\n                   -Domestic Council\n                   -The President’s view\n                        -Leadership meeting\n                        -Cost of Living Council [COLC] meeting\n                   -Instructions from the President\n                        -US economic growth rate\n                             -Compared to other industrial nations\n                                  -Japan\n                                  -The President’s previous conversation with Stein\n                                  -Japan\n                                  -Great Britain\n                                  -West Germany\n                                  -France\n                                  -Italy\n                   -Increase in real spendable earnings\n                        -Compared to increase of real income from 1966 to 1969\n                             -Price increases\n                        -The Administrations success against inflation\n                   -Growth of US economy\n                        -Compared to foreign countries\n                             -Great Britain\n                             -Italy\n                             -France\n                             -Japan\n                             -Need for correct facts\n                   -Inflation\n\n                                           (rev. Nov-03)\n\nStephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 8:45 am.\n\n             The President's schedule\n                 -John B. Connally\n                     -Completion of the President’s memorandum\n                 -Haldeman\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 9:00 am.\n\n             Economy\n                -Reduction of inflation\n                    -Compared to other countries\n                         -Japan\n                         -Great Britain\n                         -West Germany\n                -Food costs\n                    -Percentage of income spent on food\n                         -Compared to other countries\n                              -Great Britain\n                              -Ghana\n                -Distribution of fact sheet\n                    -Tricia Nixon Cox\n                    -Edward Cox\n                    -Julie Nixon Eisenhower","filename":["768-002.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Buchanan, Patrick J.","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"768-001","nextCode":"768-003","transcript":[{"start":7.51,"end":15.25,"text":"This memorandum is written to all for the purpose of jacking up the status as much as it is intended to."},{"start":15.27,"end":17.09,"text":"I have a lot of questions."},{"start":17.27,"end":28.91,"text":"I can give the responsibility for writing that."},{"start":39.69,"end":60.92,"text":"I then began to make fights, which I assumed would be covered very precisely in the economic actions prepared by Erskine and the National Council."},{"start":65.68,"end":66.42,"text":"All three of the"},{"start":68.26,"end":70.18,"text":"who had studied the economic sheets."},{"start":71.8,"end":81.58,"text":"And frankly, more often than I did, said that while the whites were covered, they weren't covered in as dramatic and effective a fashion as I had laid it out."},{"start":83.4,"end":91.55,"text":"This really surprised me, because I thought I had made the same points the leaders made, and also that it cost something else to me."},{"start":91.59,"end":93.77,"text":"In a nutshell,"},{"start":96.81,"end":104.09,"text":"but on one piece of paper that's covered the following points."},{"start":104.67,"end":124.27,"text":"One, the second, the economy of the United States at this time has a higher rate of growth than that"},{"start":135.22,"end":153.27,"text":"don't put this in the I based this on where I asked a specific question, and he said that that was correct."},{"start":157.88,"end":159.06,"text":"Just for back on the trail."},{"start":167.51,"end":168.77,"text":"It is 80% to 90%."},{"start":171.03,"end":172.2,"text":"Japan, 5%."},{"start":172.94,"end":173.68,"text":"England, 5%."},{"start":174.08,"end":174.48,"text":"Germany, 5%."},{"start":174.54,"end":174.92,"text":"France, 5%."},{"start":174.96,"end":177.4,"text":"Italy, France."},{"start":197.61,"end":200.13,"text":"So that's our new economic policy."},{"start":202.55,"end":221.48,"text":"The real spendable earnings, or real wages, i.e., wages after taxes and increases."},{"start":232.3,"end":233.46,"text":"increased 5%."},{"start":241.14,"end":259.64,"text":"This compares with the period from 1966 through 1969 when there was virtually no increase whatever in real income for Americans' wages."},{"start":265.54,"end":268.36,"text":"Increases in taxes and prices data."},{"start":271.2,"end":273.26,"text":"That's right, increases in prices data."},{"start":274.22,"end":278.64,"text":"Virtually all the increases in wages that waiters receive in that period."},{"start":280.83,"end":289.01,"text":"We finally have the American worker bottom of the inflation credit bill."},{"start":289.89,"end":294.57,"text":"And now he's making real gains against the price of the free."},{"start":296.56,"end":309.47,"text":"The increase in America's growth are demonstrated by these facts."},{"start":311.27,"end":312.56,"text":"It's a paragraph one."},{"start":313.14,"end":317.64,"text":"Every year, the American economy grows a new people."},{"start":317.78,"end":320.9,"text":"Every year, the American economy grows a new people."},{"start":322.06,"end":325.44,"text":"Every year, the American economy grows a new France, etc.,"},{"start":326.9,"end":334.28,"text":"Every two years, the American economy grows."},{"start":335.69,"end":338.27,"text":"Now, I am only simply putting this in for guidance."},{"start":339.05,"end":344.43,"text":"I know, for example, our economic growth this year by a factor of approximately $910 billion."},{"start":345.87,"end":347.19,"text":"I am sure that that is more than"},{"start":355.33,"end":365.29,"text":"I'm sure your facts are right, and I put them in in a way that will grab people."},{"start":392.37,"end":399.77,"text":"We have cut the rate of inflation in half over the past two years."},{"start":402.76,"end":406.06,"text":"The rate of inflation in the United States"},{"start":413.67,"end":415.1,"text":"He's supposed to."},{"start":446.64,"end":449.52,"text":"land, Europe, Germany, etc."},{"start":449.64,"end":462.68,"text":"Finally, the fifth question."},{"start":468.2,"end":472.52,"text":"The people of the United States are by far the best people in the world."},{"start":473.73,"end":474.01,"text":"And yet,"},{"start":477.43,"end":485.49,"text":"people in the United States pay less, a smaller percentage of their average tax dollars on food than any people in the world."},{"start":486.49,"end":501.56,"text":"For example, in the United States, the average person pays $0.15 out of each average tax dollar on food."},{"start":501.58,"end":507.03,"text":"In Britain, he pays $0.25 a turkey, but it's bigger than that."},{"start":509.05,"end":511.69,"text":"Donna, it's 60%."},{"start":517.25,"end":519.25,"text":"That's the end of the memorandum."},{"start":520.01,"end":521.77,"text":"I would like for you to get these backs up."},{"start":526.72,"end":528.26,"text":"If you can, ."},{"start":562.45,"end":563.45,"text":"End of tape."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Patrick J. Buchanan and Stephen B. Bull to dictate a memorandum outlining economic talking points for a new fact sheet. Nixon emphasized the need for a more dramatic and effective presentation of the administration's economic successes, specifically comparing U.S. growth rates, inflation reduction, and consumer food costs favorably against international benchmarks. He directed Buchanan to refine these statistics to better illustrate how the American worker has gained ground against inflation compared to the 1966–1969 period.","topics":["Economic policy","Inflation","Economic growth","Public relations","Cost of Living Council","Real wages"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T23:12:54.324Z"},"topicSlugs":["economic-policy","inflation","economic-growth","public-relations","cost-of-living-council","real-wages"],"audioDurationSec":566,"audioFiles":[{"file":"768-002.mp3","bytes":13592031,"durationSec":566.28,"bitrate":192018,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.945Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/768-002.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/768-002","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/768/conversation-768-002","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}