Nixon White House Tapes ›Tape 773 › Conversation 773-007

Nixon, Woods & Bull on Secret Service and Edward M. Kennedy

Friday, September 8, 1972 · 11:23 AM–11:30 AM ET · Oval Office ·2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Woods, Rose Mary;  Bull, Stephen B.Conversation773-007 onTape 773StartFriday, September 8, 1972 at 11:23 AMEndFriday, September 8, 1972 at 11:30 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 773-007 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon and Rose Mary Woods discussed the political implications of providing Secret Service protection to Senator Edward M. Kennedy. The conversation centered on the visibility of such security details, with Woods analyzing how Kennedy’s status might draw more public attention than Democratic opponent George McGovern. Stephen B. Bull joined briefly to coordinate the President's upcoming schedule with various senators.

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You gave it away?
Yes.
He wants to be a big shot.
He doesn't want
So he doesn't want to go around with McGovern, for instance, and have to write in McGovern's detail.
He wants to be the big shot.
He's just working for .
And he will attract more attention than McGovern. .
Yeah, okay.

NARA Description

On September 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:23 am to 11:30 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 773-007 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 773-7

Date: September 8, 1972
Time: 11:23 am - 11:30 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Rose Mary Woods.

                                          (rev. Oct-06)

             Weather

             The President's schedule
                 -Howard H. Baker, Jr. and John G. Tower

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             Secret Service protection for Edward M. Kennedy
                 -George P. Shultz
                 -The President’s instructions
                 -Extent of protection
                 -Threatening mail
                      -George C. Wallace
                 -Woods's analysis
                      -Amount of attention
                          -George S. McGovern
                          -1976 election
                          -Funeral

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:23 am.

             The President's schedule
                 -Senators
                 -Mark I. Goode

Bull left at an unknown time before 11:30 am.

Woods left at 11:30 am.

                                        (rev. Oct-06)

Also recorded on September 8, 1972

  • 105-001 10:43 AM · 29 min — President Richard M. Nixon and attorneys attending a training seminar on drug abuse law enforcement, including Myles J. Ambrose, Gordon L. Allott, James E. Baker, Samuel A. Alter, Francis M. Buckley, Romualdo Caballero, William Callahan, Stephen J. Cloud, John F. Cooney, William J. Corcoran, Frederick J., Dana, J. Michael Fitzsimmons, Stephen M. Fletcher, John C. Gibbons, Charles Pinnell, Harold Jacquet, Samuel Levine, Eb B. Luckel, Lee A. Marinaccio, Michael D. Marrs, Jose E. Martinez, Scott T. Miller, Charles Morachnik, Alexia Morrison, Norbert A. Nadel, Wayne H. Paris, Charles I. Poole, Irving Praeger, Vincent L. Promuto, Peter M. Rosen, Benjamin P. Schoen, Daniel J. Sears, Robert Sprague, Anna Stool, Patrick Sullivan, Rick Torres, Jay C. Waldman, Jackson White, John S. Wilbur, Jr., Dale R. Wright, Robert D. Zitko, David Jaffe, Monty Gray, Egil ("Bud") Krogh, Jr., Geoffrey C. Shepard, the White House photographer, and members of the press, met in the Cabinet Room of the White House at an unknown time between 10:43 am and 5:31 pm.
  • 773-005 11:15 AM · 48 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:15 am and 11:23 am.
  • 773-006 11:15 AM · 32 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:15 am and 11:23 am.
  • 773-008 11:30 AM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Mark I. Goode met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:30 am to 11:32 am.
  • 773-009 11:32 AM · 6 min — President Richard M. Nixon, John G. Tower, Howard H. Baker, Jr., William E. Timmons, and Oliver F. ("Ollie") Atkins met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:32 am and 11:39 am.
  • 773-010 11:44 AM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:44 am and 11:49 am.
  • 773-011 11:44 AM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:44 am and 11:49 am.
  • 773-012 11:49 AM · 20 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, unknown person(s), and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:49 am to 12:12 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 773-007, September 8, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/773-007 (accessed September 18, 2026).