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Conversation 773-009

TapeTape 773StartFriday, September 8, 1972 at 11:32 AMEndFriday, September 8, 1972 at 11:39 AMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Tower, John G.;  Baker, Howard H., Jr.;  Timmons, William E.;  Atkins, Oliver F. ("Ollie")Recording deviceOval Office
AudioNARA Description

On September 8, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, John G. Tower, Howard H. Baker, Jr., William E. Timmons, and Oliver F. ("Ollie") Atkins met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:32 am and 11:39 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 773-009 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 773-9

Date: September 8, 1972
Time: Unknown between 11:32 am and 11:39 am.
Location: Oval Office

The President met with John G. Tower, Howard H. Baker, Jr., William E. Timmons and Oliver
F. (“Ollie”) Atkins.

             [Photograph session]
                 -1972 campaign

             Congressional action
                -Edward W. Brooke amendment
                     -Debt ceiling
                     -Senate

                                        (rev. Oct-06)

             Vietnam
                 -Bombing and mining
                     -Poll results
                     -Barry M. Goldwater

             Congressional candidate [Robin L. Beard, Jr.]
                -Timmons
                -6th Congressional district, Tennessee

             Polls
                 -Nashville, Tennessee
                 -George S. McGovern
                 -Votes
                     -Norman Thomas

             Harold (“Barefoot”) Sanders
                 -Lyndon B. Johnson
                 -McGovern
                 -Loyalty to Democratic Party

             Vietnam War
                 -Campaign issue
                     -Candidates
                 -Louis P. Harris poll
                 -US position
                     -Soviet Union
                     -Defense
                          -Jobs
                              -Unemployment
                                   -Tennessee

The President and Tower left at 11:36 am.

             1972 campaign
                 -The President's schedule
                     -Knoxville
                     -Memphis
                     -1968, 1970

[This conversation was cut off at an unknown time before 11:39 am.]

                                          (rev. Oct-06)
Transcript (AI-Generated)

This transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.

Hi, my honor.
How are you, sir?
There's a two callers.
Thank you.
Who's on the duty?
I am.
All right.
All right.
Let's see.
Should we do it?
We want to see it.
All right.
Get out here.
I'll be one.
I think it's something with the main thing.
You've got to get on.
You've got to run it.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I haven't.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I reckon we'll take the same picture.
Oh, yeah, we've got the stills first.
Absolutely, absolutely.
We've got a congressional candidate who's running the congressional list.
Thanks, sir.
I don't know about people, but Norman Thomas practically got more votes than that.
I think that Thomas was working there.
Well, I think it's a good point.
Well, it is, but it's, uh, there isn't a lot of government.
Right this minute.
I don't think you're...
I mean, yeah.
Can you compare what I suppose takes the Dix-Johnson's line?
Uh, he doesn't take any line at the moment.
He's trying to disqualify the governor.
He'll be a loyal Democrat and all that.
Well, let him disqualify the governor.
Yeah, he, my man says that he's going to vote for the governor and not support him.
Well, that's what I'm trying to say.
I'm already about to get out of the way.
Actually, listen, be sure if they come up with a warning, you just got to...
The war issue is very much on our side.
Anybody who picks, they put a hard line on that, on our side.
It's just devastating.
That's why we've got to respond to this.
We'll get people to vote with us.
If you put a war on defense, and particularly where it has to do with the institution of Congress, government, or putting it on defense, not just
Thank you.
I think I'll start right there, so you guys don't have to worry about me.
I've been sitting here for a couple of years, and I've been watching this on my phone.
Yeah.
I've been watching this on my phone.
Whatever's worth, it's probably not worth much.
My visualization is that all of these will take about three weeks, but not as great as the test you came up with.
Good one, Senator Lubbs.
Thank you, Dan.
That's right.
It gives you, as we're about to say, a bit worse direction for people to get out.
Where we want to kind of see it becomes, it'd be great if we had a multiple admittance, but if we can't do that, that's quite possible.
Turn out a little piece of metal, doesn't it?
It's possible, it's such a big system.
Thank you.
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