Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 774-010 Date: Monday, September 11, 1972 at 11:23 AM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Train, Russell E.; Butterfield, Alexander P.; Bull, Stephen B.; White House photographer Recording device: Oval Office Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/774-010 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:03] Yes, this has been checked over very carefully. [0:45] That's all I got. [2:03] Thank you. [2:07] Thank you. [2:31] Thank you. [3:58] Sure, thank you. [4:55] Not a great deal. [4:56] There are some areas where we can work on that. [4:59] They're quite expert in the Arctic pipeline problems, for example, where we hope we can learn how to deal with that permafrost problem in ways which they know. [5:09] But they're very leery of giving us away. [5:13] They are. [5:14] Well, one minute. [5:25] I grew up in Los Angeles area. [5:27] When there was no smog, there would be none. [5:32] Back in the 90s and 30s, it became a problem in the 40s and 50s without no bills. [5:38] So they must have been cities. [5:40] And so the candidates for smog, you know, overworked. [5:47] They've done very good planning on this too. [5:48] And they can stop right now. [5:58] see if their cars are ones that are more polluted. [6:47] They're taking two private conservation organizations, the Wildlife Federation, which is a very conservative group, and the old friends they see are a group. [6:58] But their head is a conservative man. [7:16] We'll see you next time. [7:47] they can and talk to their opposite numbers. [7:51] Make book of them. [7:51] That's why I think it's very important. [7:53] You never know who's going to go to the top in these countries. [7:56] Make book of them. [7:57] In other words, give very thorough reports as to what this person was like and what they say, what they do. [8:05] Very good thing to do. [8:06] Don't spend your time talking to each other. [8:08] Get around. [8:08] Concede. [8:09] Move around. [8:12] Do what you think is right. [8:14] And move with your past beliefs, your opposites. [8:48] They just didn't . [8:51] They came over here and said that she's not . [8:57] And they're telling me . [9:06] And she's about . [9:12] You know, things of that sort. [9:14] But also, . [9:30] Well, you've, of course, been there before. [9:32] No, I have not. [9:34] You didn't go on an earlier trip? [9:35] No, I didn't. [9:36] I had a great time. [9:39] Which cities? [9:40] Going to Moscow. [9:42] I'm hoping to get out to Lake Baikal and go to Siberia for a bit. [9:45] Oh, you've got to go to Siberia, because it's a different part of the world. [9:52] You might say that I strongly recommend it, because I know people there that should go to Siberia, because it's so interesting. [9:57] No, Siberia's the brand new city. [10:22] Go out and see the castles. [10:27] Go out and see the castles. [10:32] The Russians are terribly complex. [10:38] They're not as bad as Khrushchev was. [11:28] I understand. [12:04] I had a great time. [12:07] The best thing to do is get there. [12:11] It's good for you. [12:14] It is, but very good for you. [12:16] Very good for you. [12:18] And also, it has no, particularly for stress. [12:22] I once read an article on stress. [12:34] once. [12:34] You don't have to stress about this. [12:37] Caviar and champagne, the only problem is that you can't pay them when the bill comes.