{"conversationCode":"774-020","tapeNumber":774,"conversationNumber":20,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-774-020","startDateTime":"1972-09-11T16:29:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-09-11T16:36:00.000Z","startDate":"11-Sep-1972","startTime":"12:29 PM","endDate":"11-Sep-1972","endTime":"12:36 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Butterfield, Alexander P.;","description":"On September 11, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:29 pm to 12:36 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 774-020 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 774-20\n\nDate: September 11, 1972\nTime: 12:29 pm - 12:36 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Alexander P. Butterfield.\n\n         [Pause]\n\n         The President's schedule\n             -Breakfast meeting, September 12, 1972\n                  -Clark MacGregor\n                  -H.R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman\n                  -Thomas W. Evans, Thomas B. Evans, Anne L. Armstrong,\n                   Barbara H. Franklin\n                  -Table\n                  -Attendance\n\n                                         (rev. Oct-06)\n\n                      -Numbers\n                  -Charts\n                  -Charles W. Colson\n                  -MacGregor\n                  -Food service\n                  -Length\n\nThe President and Butterfield left at 12:36 pm.","filename":["774-020.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Butterfield, Alexander P.","Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Butterfield, Alexander P."],"prevCode":"774-019","nextCode":"774-021","transcript":[{"start":42.32,"end":58.38,"text":"And our normal staff group, although we can cut that way down, we're just about going to have to go to something other than the square."},{"start":58.4,"end":59.5,"text":"46 and 9."},{"start":72.33,"end":74.69,"text":"17 cabins, 13 leaders, plus the committee people."},{"start":74.73,"end":75.85,"text":"Well, how many?"},{"start":75.89,"end":83.19,"text":"Why don't you just come to staff and let them come in and sit around?"},{"start":83.31,"end":87.24,"text":"Cut them out of the breakfast."},{"start":87.44,"end":89.46,"text":"Yeah, let them come in to me."},{"start":89.68,"end":94.34,"text":"Yeah, because it isn't really a good way to make a presentation."},{"start":94.5,"end":98.59,"text":"You're out in the squares better and have the staff."},{"start":150.87,"end":158.35,"text":"So the group will be just really the same group it was last time."},{"start":158.37,"end":158.95,"text":"How do you serve?"},{"start":158.97,"end":162.63,"text":"Do you give them oranges and they come in, or do you serve them?"},{"start":162.66,"end":165.86,"text":"I don't want them to have to remove their crack."},{"start":166.68,"end":169,"text":"You have oranges, they want to make one and remove them and serve them."},{"start":169.04,"end":169.78,"text":"I'll be the last thing."},{"start":169.8,"end":170.74,"text":"And what did you just call?"},{"start":170.82,"end":173.38,"text":"They were congregating in the blue."},{"start":173.84,"end":174.34,"text":"I just."},{"start":220.59,"end":220.95,"text":"All right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Alexander Butterfield met to finalize logistical arrangements for an upcoming breakfast meeting with campaign staff and committee members. They discussed the guest list, including the exclusion of certain staff to keep the group size manageable, and evaluated the physical seating configuration of the room to ensure an effective presentation. The President specifically requested adjustments to the service style to maintain a streamlined environment for the discussion.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Logistics","Campaign management","Staff coordination","White House operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T23:21:31.048Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","logistics","campaign-management","staff-coordination","white-house-operations"],"audioDurationSec":224,"audioFiles":[{"file":"774-020.mp3","bytes":5374745,"durationSec":223.88,"bitrate":192058,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.945Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/774-020.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/774-020","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/774/conversation-774-020","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}