Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 776-017
Date: Thursday, September 14, 1972 at 12:52 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")
Recording device: Oval Office
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/776-017

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[0:07] to get along with the political generation.
[0:12] So, I would rather, I love, I can tell you that I am very pleased with that gathering we had, and I think it was a very good idea.
[0:22] I think it was constructed really well.
[0:25] I don't know whether he would want to have what money I have, whether he would like to have any money.
[0:33] I don't know.
[0:34] But I do know that that was the charge.
[0:38] You could have her open on occasion, maybe, or anything where she doesn't have an issue.
[0:46] It was good for her not to be there on the water table.
[0:53] I agree with that.
[0:55] I think constantly judging on the water table is correct.
[1:00] He knows that all he can do is borrow trouble and just keep the store running.
[1:05] He got my fucking god damn money.
[1:08] And I need to make sure he takes it.
[1:10] He's got a lot of money to cover up.
[1:12] He's got a pretty good counter fire on us.
[1:14] Don't we cover up?
[1:17] I'm trying to be frank with you.
[1:20] No, we haven't.
[1:22] Let me say this.
[1:23] My fight is...
[1:24] It's an old thing.
[1:25] It's a political crap.
[1:27] It's all a bastard.
[1:28] Right, right, right.
[1:29] It says that it passed me in the campaign in 1968.
[1:32] So, like, if that one gets to run, it gets out.
[1:35] Yeah.
[1:36] If it gets to run, it gets to the other job.
[1:40] And we just leave it there.
[1:42] We don't put it out.
[1:44] It doesn't come out.
[1:50] Well, I don't know.
[1:52] I don't want to be in an event.
[1:54] That's, uh, don't let it scatter.
[1:56] And also, if you think about your clock, if I were going to, I can't think of a good, I think I'm going to have it now, close to nine.
[2:05] And, uh,
[2:07] And in our opinion, we won't have much to do after the dinner up there.
[2:10] We're going to spend all day in Wednesday, and have dinner Wednesday night, and come back after the dinner.
[2:16] See?
[2:16] And have a good time Wednesday night.
[2:19] Not have too much to do.
[2:20] Let's just get through the rest of the day.
[2:22] That's what it is.
[2:24] If our brain is doing it's job.
[2:26] it's just a better pattern because it's better to get anything back and ready for him and then they come back with you.
[2:31] It's much better than having them go up with you.
[2:33] It's a big thrill for them to come back.
[2:35] It's a little longer if they go up with you and they stay and they don't.
[2:39] I think that coming up Wednesday for the meeting is good.
[2:45] It gives me a day of total relaxation, which I really need.
[2:53] I don't really know what you want me to talk to you about.
[2:57] Just go to him.
[2:58] Hey, maybe he'll let me do this.
[2:59] I'll do this for him.
[3:02] Can't go.
[3:02] Just, he gets me kicked out of the city.
[3:03] You know, he rips up the city with one guy, and he just grinds.
[3:08] He can't talk to us every day.
[3:09] All right.
[3:10] And he grinds us every day.
[3:11] He's got more of us.
[3:12] I don't know.
[3:14] We're doing better.
[3:14] We're doing better.
[3:16] We're doing a lot better.
[3:17] These are our friends.
[3:18] We don't want our friends.
[3:21] He's working on all the logos and all, because he's a guy.
[3:25] Well, he has contact on the ground, so he's got to come through.
[3:29] But I'm sure he's fighting to do it.
[3:30] He's got to make good faith in him.
[3:35] He's got to have everything.
[3:36] Got it.
[3:36] They're here.
[3:36] They're there today.
[3:37] I want to say it's not happy to put up their clients, because they put up guys.
[3:45] So the guys are going to be okay.
[3:47] Guys, this is really funny.
[3:49] I don't know.
[4:42] I don't know.
[5:03] I got a picture of that.
[5:42] You're working on radio.
[5:43] I mean, this is cool.
[5:44] You guys, they have radio.
[5:46] I have a rock and roll radio.
[5:49] Oh, my, they're bad.
[5:50] Oh, it's a hell of a job.
[5:51] I know how official it must be.
[5:52] I'm asking for money.
[5:55] We don't have any money.
[5:56] We cannot make any money.
[5:57] Oh, we're going to make money.
[5:58] We're going to make money.
[6:00] We're going to make money.
[6:02] We're going to make money.
[6:03] We're going to make money.
[6:04] We're going to make money.
[6:05] We're going to make money.
[6:06] We're going to make money.
[6:13] That's a really tough one.
[6:14] Boy, did they get a hold of that?
[6:19] Special test training for all of us.
[6:21] We're in a situation of power destruction.
[6:28] It's an interesting thing.
[6:30] They said yesterday, the governor of Philadelphia and all that stuff, whatever it was, yesterday, the weekend of Philadelphia, April 9th, and yesterday, Dr. Tracy was there.
[6:50] Yeah, but I mean, it's the best story about what a staff member is doing.
[7:17] We got, apparently, Rodney from Bill, as well as the new upcoming one.
[7:25] And he said, he hit me, he said, he said, I have to do, I have to do this, and I have to do this.
[7:33] And I played, I played with him, and I played with him, and I played with him, and I played with him, and I played with him.
[7:45] And I just, you know, I've got to be told what's going on here.
[7:48] They played this month with me, won me without my knowing it.
[7:52] And I think we played on a holiday.
[7:54] Well, Henry did.
[7:54] Not for my purpose.
[7:56] I mean, he did play on Rodgers.
[8:10] And don't go without those moves, you know.
[8:13] And so that passport did the right thing.
[8:15] It did a good job.
[8:17] And it deserves credit, which it's got.
[8:19] Surely, because I've got to be the president, man.
[8:21] But getting it just worked out.
[8:23] So I started that, you know, with what they're going to accomplish with me.
[8:27] And I'm fully aware of it.
[8:30] situation.
[8:31] You know, you're going to see it in the middle of all this.
[8:35] You know, and we kind of left it at that.
[8:37] I just believe in it, if you will.
[8:39] And I'm not sure where I am now, whether I've made it worse or better.
[8:45] And, uh, what it would, I think, my belief is that a lot of folks are going to have to panic and have to talk to the set up manager to talk to them on Saturday morning, you know.
[8:57] So, you know,
[9:04] But he's looking for that.
[9:05] He's looking for knockouts.
[9:07] And I know Henry's looking for that the other two days, day three.
[9:11] I'm sure now, you know, he said, Henry said, I was going to the last draft the third day, whatever it is.
[9:15] Now he gets to go to the last draft.
[9:17] He'll probably say, you know, obviously that was planned all along.
[9:21] He's got to think about that.
[9:23] And there is nothing he can accomplish by knocking them, except that we have a team.
[9:28] And you may end up working.
[9:32] Okay, do you see someplace?
[9:33] I'll tell you what to do when I get there.
[9:44] I already know what to do.
[10:11] If the NCAA is going to create speculation, I'm not interested.
[10:14] I don't think the NCAA is going to create speculation.
[10:16] We're going to have to wait and see.
[10:19] We're going to have to wait and see.
[10:23] We're going to have to wait and see.
[10:25] We're going to have to wait and see.
[10:33] way that energy stuff kind of works, where you kind of change the truth and stuff, and that's what drives those as well.
[10:38] But that's an excuse.
[10:40] What really drives those as well is getting attention.
[10:42] And he doesn't know very much.
[10:44] He doesn't.
[10:45] He doesn't.
[10:46] He doesn't.
[10:48] He doesn't.
[10:49] He's got to be smarter.
[10:50] He's got to be smarter.
[10:57] He's got to be smarter.
[11:08] Well, Bill, they hit me again.
[11:09] I haven't thought back on it.
[11:12] I tried to leave it for him, but my head is up.
[11:15] He may come very fast.
[11:16] I told you I was going to be the president.
[11:19] You might not allow me to.
[11:20] No, no, no.
[11:20] He's not going to be the president.
[11:26] He thinks he's going to be the president before anything is done.
[11:28] And I don't want to go through his hands and bring him home and see how much he's going to do.
[11:35] He always does.
[11:40] Yeah, he raised it with me, and I'll tell you what he wants.
[11:43] I was with Kendrick, and I talked with you on Saturday.
[11:45] I discovered all the lies, and I started to tell you to get the other on Monday.
[11:50] All right.
[11:50] If there's anything you'd like to add, come on.
[11:57] I still want you to tell me what you want.
[12:00] All right.
[12:00] All right.
[12:02] All right.
[12:02] All right.
[12:04] All right.
[12:05] All right.
[12:06] All right.
[12:12] We've got to do it at a key point.
[12:14] How that all fits together.
[12:15] We've got to know how to do it.
[12:28] We've got to hold for the child to respond.
[12:30] We've got to remember that the response will decide.
[12:34] And we should be more or less coming together.
[12:37] That would be it.
[12:51] I've had a show about what we can do to try to get the oil accredited in Atlanta.
[12:54] And I've been seeing a little push from the security council on those one times, and that was great.
[13:03] You know, it's been a lot of fun.
[13:05] The whole accreditation time.
[13:06] I've had a lot of fun.
[13:07] And I'm happy to be able to do that.
[13:11] I mean, it's been a great experience.
[13:27] I don't know why they're going to be shy.
[13:45] But, I get it.
[13:45] The only thing that he has to do, by the way, you see, let's say, after the election, you know, like, you know, like Bill Gates, or
[14:07] I'm going to be a party leader.
[14:09] It's very important.
[14:14] I very much like it.
[14:14] I just want to try to do it.
[14:16] I just want to do it.
[14:17] I just want to do it.
[14:19] I just want to do it.
[14:19] I just want to do it.
[14:23] I just want to do it.
[14:29] Well, there's a conspiracy.
[14:36] Let's get out of here tomorrow.
[14:50] No, I will...
[14:59] He's going to have a phone call.
[15:06] He doesn't want to get together.
[15:14] He's going to have to call early Saturday morning.
[15:58] A lot of the bullets are probably in these areas as well.
[16:00] Yeah.
[16:00] I think it's nice to know that the entity was a part of the community, and I think it's nice to know that it's a little more.
[16:26] If you're at the White House, Henry comes in and reports to you and then calls Bill and reports to him.
[16:35] Better.
[16:36] There's no problem.
[16:38] I appreciate it.
[16:41] It's probably worth it to do that.
[16:46] I think I'm
[17:05] Let's do that.
[17:06] I think I'll stay here Friday night.
[17:08] I think that's probably better than Henry gets in there.
[17:12] There is something to that.
[17:13] We're still going to start on that.
[17:16] They may be killed up there.
[17:29] They just can't go away, I guess.
[17:31] They're getting out of town here.
[17:33] They may get into it.
[17:36] You know, it's really a lot of flexibility to raise questions as to whether or not the presidential decision was recorded.
[17:41] If the president recorded it, he recorded it again.
[17:45] If I had it again, we should get it recorded again.
[17:47] Yeah.
[17:48] I should record it again.
[17:49] First year.
[17:50] Any time you want.
[17:51] And, uh, we're going to move on and on with this thing.
[18:02] I'm not sure if he's going to use his dog to call him back.
[18:17] Or not to call him back.
[18:20] Let's call him back.
[18:21] We'll have a final tomorrow.
[18:23] Yeah.
[18:26] If you want to hold it off, I think it's better to just hold it off because it's, it's fuzzed in the sense that you may not be expecting it to be called to tomorrow or today.
[18:34] It would save money.
[18:35] It would save a lot of money.
[18:37] And what did you say?
[18:40] I think it would save us, tomorrow would be a pretty cool day.
[18:45] Yeah, that's good.
[18:49] Yeah.
[18:49] So, it looks like it would be better to get together after you get to the forest and know what we've got.
[18:56] I think we'll have to run back.
[19:00] I think we'll have to run back.
[19:02] I think we'll have to run back.
[19:08] I think we'll have to run back.
[19:17] I think we'll have to run back.
[19:18] I think we'll have to run back.
[19:20] I think we'll have to run back.
[19:22] I think we'll have to run back.
[19:26] I'd like to talk to you about it.
[19:42] Okay, they're going to have to do it all over again after that.
[19:46] They're going to have to do it all over again.
[19:48] They're going to have to do it all over again.
[19:53] They're going to have to do it all over again.
[19:59] They're going to have to do it all over again.
[20:07] You're amazing because they want to put up the website stuff because they don't want to work on it.
[20:11] I don't know what the hell.
[20:13] We talked about it.
[20:13] I talked about this in the press.
[20:18] My favorite thing to work on is financing.
[20:22] Financing is a kind of thing.
[20:24] Financing is a credit app.
[20:29] Bill is quite a bit of that way.
[20:31] It's a credit line.
[20:32] It's always a lot of shares.
[20:34] I'll see you at the ball.
[21:23] It was a funny accident, but it's a movie story.
[21:29] You understand that, right?
[21:33] I don't know why.
[21:36] I don't know.
[21:37] I don't know.
[21:38] I don't know.
[21:40] I don't know.
[21:42] I don't know.
[21:43] I don't know.
[21:54] Next time you call us, you want to make a date.
[22:20] you know what
[23:23] Chuck says he didn't have it on.
[23:25] He just talked out about a series of stuff he's been through since 2001.
[23:27] He's going to have it.
[23:28] Because his coffee is much better.
[23:30] I had a guy who was a coffee picker that I used to charge.
[23:33] He said, well, they haven't got that anymore.
[23:37] And he said, well, he's going to be chased by an old man.
[23:39] Well, that's kind of crazy.
[23:41] He wasn't having a job, but he's going to have it on today.
[23:44] All right.
[23:47] I think it's crazy.
[23:49] So on this section, they're all going to do a video.
[23:52] Matt, he does a video on it.
[23:53] Matt, Charlie, and so forth and so on.
[24:00] I think that our producer, who's done so much, you know, including her other team, the Chargers, her other team, we did a video.
[24:09] We got Anthony, we got Eddie.
[24:21] I think we can make that a hell of a show right now.
[24:23] Yeah.
[24:24] Well, do you want to do a stopper tag game for the next four years?
[24:30] Oh, yeah.
[24:30] Really?
[24:30] Sure.
[24:31] Well, we have three choices.
[24:34] We'd like to either stay in the first absolutely time, which is at the end of session four, or be assigned as commander of an airport flight, which we will be.
[24:43] Yeah.
[24:44] And that would be the best option.
[24:45] Yeah.
[24:49] That's what I came up with.
[24:51] What do you want?
[24:52] I want you to tell me everything.
[24:54] You have to say everything.
[25:26] Thank you.