{"conversationCode":"778-015","tapeNumber":778,"conversationNumber":15,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-778-015","startDateTime":"1972-09-15T14:50:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-09-15T15:05:00.000Z","startDate":"15-Sep-1972","startTime":"10:50 AM","endDate":"15-Sep-1972","endTime":"11:05 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On September 15, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:50 am and 11:05 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 778-015 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 778-15\n\nDate: September 15, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 10:50 am and 11:05 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n         The President's schedule\n            -Car\n            -Ray Charles\n            -Frank C. Carlucci\n            -Henry C. Cashen, II\n            -Forthcoming meeting with Charles\n                -Photograph\n                -Drugs\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 11:05 am.","filename":["778-015.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"778-014","nextCode":"778-016","transcript":[{"start":2.75,"end":4,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":4.82,"end":10.84,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull reviewed the President's upcoming schedule to organize logistics for various appointments and appearances. They specifically discussed arrangements for a meeting with singer Ray Charles, including plans for a photograph and a discussion regarding the issue of drugs. The participants also touched upon administrative briefings involving Frank C. Carlucci and Henry C. Cashen, II.","topics":["Presidential schedule","Ray Charles","Drug policy","White House logistics","Frank C. Carlucci"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T23:26:34.539Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","ray-charles","drug-policy","white-house-logistics","frank-c-carlucci"],"audioDurationSec":50,"audioFiles":[{"file":"778-015.mp3","bytes":1191182,"durationSec":49.56,"bitrate":192281,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.945Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/778-015.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/778-015","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/778/conversation-778-015","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}