{"conversationCode":"778-025","tapeNumber":778,"conversationNumber":25,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-778-025","startDateTime":"1972-09-15T16:14:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-09-15T16:17:00.000Z","startDate":"15-Sep-1972","startTime":"12:14 PM","endDate":"15-Sep-1972","endTime":"12:17 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On September 15, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:14 pm and 12:17 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 778-025 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 778-25\n\nDate: September 15, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 12:14 pm and 12:17 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\n                                        (rev. Feb-24)\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n         The President's schedule\n            -Sequoia trip\n                -Guest list\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 12:17 pm.","filename":["778-025.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"778-024","nextCode":"778-026","transcript":[{"start":3.45,"end":4.15,"text":"We don't know yet."},{"start":5.13,"end":5.91,"text":"I'll just say leave it."},{"start":6.37,"end":7.93,"text":"They always figure, figure."},{"start":9.21,"end":10.02,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":11.02,"end":12.76,"text":"I don't know."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and aide Stephen B. Bull met briefly in the Oval Office to coordinate logistics for an upcoming trip aboard the presidential yacht, the Sequoia. The primary focus of the discussion was the selection and finalization of the guest list for the excursion. No further policy decisions were recorded during this short administrative scheduling session.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Sequoia yacht","White House logistics","Stephen B. Bull"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T23:27:31.090Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","sequoia-yacht","white-house-logistics","stephen-b-bull"],"audioDurationSec":18,"audioFiles":[{"file":"778-025.mp3","bytes":426317,"durationSec":17.71,"bitrate":192613,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.945Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/778-025.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/778-025","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/778/conversation-778-025","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}