{"conversationCode":"779-001","tapeNumber":779,"conversationNumber":1,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-779-001","startDateTime":"1972-09-15T19:15:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-09-15T21:27:00.000Z","startDate":"15-Sep-1972","startTime":"3:15 PM","endDate":"15-Sep-1972","endTime":"5:27 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On September 15, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:15 pm and 5:27 pm. 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(“Bob”) Haldeman.\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 16\n[Personal returnable]\n[Duration: 2m 50s     ]\n\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 16\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n\n            Personnel\n                -Rose Mary Woods\n                -Emil (“Bus”) Mosbacher, Jr.\n                    -William P. Rogers\n                    -Trip to Soviet Union\n                    -Haldeman’s view\n                    -Duties\n\n            The President's schedule\n                -Dinner for George P. Shultz\n                     -Senators' opinions\n                     -Support for the President\n                     -John B. Connally, Shultz\n                -State Department dinner\n                -Hugh Scott\n                     -Effect of Presidency\n                     -Clark MacGregor\n                                                2\n\n                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF\n\n                                       Tape Subject Log\n                                         (rev. Oct-06)\n\n                  -Meeting with John W. Dean, III\n\nHaldeman left at an unknown time before 5:27 pm.","filename":["779-001.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"778-029","nextCode":"779-002","transcript":[{"start":22.86,"end":24.8,"text":"Rose gets a lot of pressure from the things"},{"start":30.81,"end":34.93,"text":"He knows about this sort of thing."},{"start":34.95,"end":40.78,"text":"There's no earthly reason for people like us not to back the party."},{"start":40.8,"end":44.76,"text":"I mean, he's been at everything."},{"start":46.38,"end":47.34,"text":"He took it to Russia."},{"start":47.48,"end":47.76,"text":"Oh, yeah."},{"start":47.8,"end":57.23,"text":"He has had, for what he's delivered, for what sacrifices he's made, he's had more rewards than anybody in this whole place, really."},{"start":57.27,"end":58.03,"text":"It's a nice job."},{"start":58.05,"end":58.11,"text":"Oh."},{"start":58.13,"end":59.03,"text":"It's a good job."},{"start":59.05,"end":59.19,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":60.66,"end":62.22,"text":"If you lied to me, I wouldn't understand anything."},{"start":62.24,"end":77.49,"text":"I didn't, I like to do things like that sometimes, but I don't think this is quite, I don't think this is Senator's line."},{"start":77.59,"end":86.7,"text":"I think former Secretary of the Treasury is, because there are people that will be supporting this, and they're standing for it now."},{"start":91.06,"end":95.77,"text":"Yeah, that's a different kind of thing totally."},{"start":96.06,"end":98.69,"text":"And this thing would be much of the state department crowd."},{"start":114.54,"end":124.05,"text":"very hard for you to drop in and off that anyway that's what we try to keep saying you know drop in like you can't you can't just drop in you know they don't"},{"start":125.41,"end":127.57,"text":"There's no way to say, look everybody, look like what you dropped in."},{"start":127.61,"end":135.05,"text":"They want you to drop in and the thing is, look, they want you to drop in and be like you used to be."},{"start":135.47,"end":135.61,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":135.67,"end":141.43,"text":"It never, and we just kind of have to prove to people that it never can be like it used to be."},{"start":141.45,"end":141.85,"text":"There is no way."},{"start":141.87,"end":142.55,"text":"You can't do it."},{"start":142.59,"end":143.85,"text":"It just isn't like it used to be."},{"start":143.89,"end":147.19,"text":"I walk in and, you know, I just can't be quite like what it used to be."},{"start":174.56,"end":175.81,"text":"Is Dean here today?"},{"start":175.83,"end":177.47,"text":"Mm-hmm."},{"start":177.5,"end":179.38,"text":"Are we happy to cut down on him?"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H.R. Haldeman reviewed upcoming scheduling commitments, including a dinner for George Shultz and a State Department event. They discussed the political challenges of maintaining traditional social accessibility amidst the constraints of the presidency, with Nixon emphasizing that the nature of his office precludes returning to previous personal interactions. The pair also touched upon personnel matters, specifically regarding Emil Mosbacher’s duties and rewards, and confirmed a scheduled meeting with John Dean.","topics":["White House scheduling","Presidential protocol","Emil Mosbacher","George Shultz","John Dean","Political strategy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T23:27:59.146Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-scheduling","presidential-protocol","emil-mosbacher","george-shultz","john-dean","political-strategy"],"audioDurationSec":186,"audioFiles":[{"file":"779-001.mp3","bytes":4465684,"durationSec":186.01,"bitrate":192058,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.945Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/779-001.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/779-001","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/779/conversation-779-001","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}