{"conversationCode":"780-008","tapeNumber":780,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-780-008","startDateTime":"1972-09-16T14:20:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-09-16T14:41:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Sep-1972","startTime":"10:20 AM","endDate":"16-Sep-1972","endTime":"10:41 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Ziegler, Ronald L.; [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On September 16, 1972, Ronald L. Ziegler and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:20 am and 10:41 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 780-008 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 780-8\n\nDate: September 16, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 10:20 am and 10:40 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\n                                         (rev. Oct-06)\n\nRonald L. Ziegler met with an unknown woman.\n\n            Folder\n\n            Notebook and other items from office\n                -Henry A. Kissinger’s desk\n\nZiegler and the unknown woman left at an unknown time before 10:40 am.","filename":["780-008.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Ziegler, Ronald L.","[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"780-007","nextCode":"780-009","transcript":[{"start":0.54,"end":1.85,"text":"I'll be able to hear you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler met with an unidentified woman in the Oval Office to retrieve personal items, including notebooks, from Henry A. Kissinger’s desk. The brief interaction focused on the logistical collection of materials from the office. Following the retrieval of these items, Ziegler and his guest promptly departed the premises.","topics":["White House logistics","Ronald L. Ziegler","Henry A. Kissinger","Oval Office operations","Administrative tasks"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T23:28:55.559Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-logistics","ronald-l-ziegler","henry-a-kissinger","oval-office-operations","administrative-tasks"],"audioDurationSec":20,"audioFiles":[{"file":"780-008.mp3","bytes":489011,"durationSec":20.32,"bitrate":192524,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.945Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/780-008.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/780-008","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/780/conversation-780-008","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}