{"conversationCode":"780-011","tapeNumber":780,"conversationNumber":11,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-780-011","startDateTime":"1972-09-16T14:41:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-09-16T14:44:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Sep-1972","startTime":"10:41 AM","endDate":"16-Sep-1972","endTime":"10:44 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On September 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:41 am and 10:44 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 780-011 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 780-11\n\nDate: September 16, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 10:41 am and 10:44 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n             Henry A. Kissinger\n\n             First Family's schedule\n                  -Arrivals to the White House\n                      -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon\n                      -Tricia Nixon Cox\n                      -Julie Nixon Eisenhower\n                  -Trip to Camp David\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 10:44 am.","filename":["780-011.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"780-010","nextCode":"780-012","transcript":[{"start":9.51,"end":16.95,"text":"I don't think all of them are going to be going."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to discuss the logistics of the First Family's upcoming travel plans, specifically regarding departures to Camp David. They reviewed the scheduled arrivals of Pat Nixon, Tricia Nixon Cox, and Julie Nixon Eisenhower to the White House. Additionally, the conversation briefly touched upon matters involving Henry A. Kissinger.","topics":["First Family","Camp David","Schedule logistics","Henry Kissinger"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T23:29:11.712Z"},"topicSlugs":["first-family","camp-david","schedule-logistics","henry-kissinger"],"audioDurationSec":33,"audioFiles":[{"file":"780-011.mp3","bytes":801853,"durationSec":33.33,"bitrate":192444,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.945Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/780-011.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/780-011","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/780/conversation-780-011","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}