Nixon White House Tapes ›Tape 780 › Conversation 780-013

Nixon & Rigley on Utility Workers Union and 1972 Election

Saturday, September 16, 1972 · 10:44 AM–10:45 AM ET · Oval Office ·2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Rigley, Harold T.Conversation780-013 onTape 780StartSaturday, September 16, 1972 at 10:44 AMEndSaturday, September 16, 1972 at 10:45 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 780-013 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon met with Harold T. Rigley to discuss the Utility Workers Union’s recent convention in Miami and the geographic reach of the union's membership. The conversation touched upon the organization's influence in regions like Detroit and Southern California, specifically referencing Pacific Gas and Electric and Southern California Edison. Nixon expressed a desire to meet with the union leadership, facilitated by Willie J. Usery, Jr., following the conclusion of the 1972 election.

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How's your convention?
Yeah.
Oh, that's right.
Are you in Miami, though?
Yeah.
Right.
Right.
Right.
Uh-huh.
Sure.
Is that right?
Yeah.
Right.
Good.
Good.
Where do you cover most of the whole country?
Right.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, is that right?
Yeah, that's the one.
I know Southern Cal.
They're the big one down in our part of the state.
Well, you tell the others that I call in when I go.
I will hope to have Bill bring in one day and have him talk here in the office once we get past this election.
Right.
Thank you and good luck to you.

NARA Description

On September 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Harold T. Rigley met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:44 am to 10:45 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 780-013 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 780-13

Date: September 16, 1972
Time: 10:44 am - 10:45 am
Location: Oval Office

The President talked with Harold T. Rigley.

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             1972 Utility Workers Union Convention
                 -Miami, Florida
                 -Union's membership
                 -Geographic scope
                     -Detroit
                     -Southern California
                 -Pacific Gas and Electric [PG&E]
                 -Southern California [Cal] Edison

             The President's schedule
                 -Willie J. Usery, Jr.

                                          (rev. Oct-06)

                      -1972 election

             Parting remarks

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 780-013, September 16, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/780-013 (accessed September 18, 2026).