{"conversationCode":"781-004","tapeNumber":781,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-781-004","startDateTime":"1972-09-18T13:36:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-09-18T14:16:00.000Z","startDate":"18-Sep-1972","startTime":"9:36 AM","endDate":"18-Sep-1972","endTime":"10:16 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On September 18, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:36 am and 10:16 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 781-004 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 781-4\n\nDate: September 18, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 9:36 am and 10:16 am\n\n                                        (rev. Oct-06)\n\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n             The President's schedule\n                 -Press\n                 -H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 10:16 am.","filename":["781-004.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"781-003","nextCode":"781-005","transcript":[{"start":3.35,"end":6.04,"text":"I will take you to LA."},{"start":6.08,"end":10.09,"text":"I think I'm going to have to press and I'd like to write in person."},{"start":30.93,"end":31.57,"text":"He's going over there."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Stephen B. Bull to coordinate logistical arrangements for an upcoming trip to Los Angeles. The discussion focused on managing press interactions and synchronizing plans with H.R. Haldeman. Bull was tasked with facilitating travel requirements and communication protocols for the President's departure.","topics":["Presidential travel","Logistics","Press relations","H.R. Haldeman","Los Angeles"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T23:30:18.212Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-travel","logistics","press-relations","h-r-haldeman","los-angeles"],"audioDurationSec":42,"audioFiles":[{"file":"781-004.mp3","bytes":998085,"durationSec":41.53,"bitrate":192247,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.945Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/781-004.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/781-004","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/781/conversation-781-004","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}