{"conversationCode":"781-009","tapeNumber":781,"conversationNumber":9,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-781-009","startDateTime":"1972-09-18T15:37:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-09-18T15:37:00.000Z","startDate":"18-Sep-1972","startTime":"11:37 AM","endDate":"18-Sep-1972","endTime":"11:37 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On September 18, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House at 11:37 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 781-009 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 781-9\n\nDate: September 18, 1972\nTime: 11:37 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Ronald L. Ziegler.\n\n             The President’s recent speech to Conference on International\n             Narcotics Control\n             -Influx of dangerous drugs into US\n                  -Analogy\n                  -Foreign aid\n\nZiegler left at 11:37 am.","filename":["781-009.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"781-008","nextCode":"781-010","transcript":[{"start":0.88,"end":7.7,"text":"the United States from abroad are as great an enemy as an armed force coming in."},{"start":7.8,"end":9.35,"text":"You know, it's been destroyed."},{"start":9.37,"end":12.01,"text":"That's the key line that we want to get across."},{"start":12.97,"end":13.17,"text":"All right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler discussed the strategic messaging for the President's recent address at the Conference on International Narcotics Control. They focused on characterizing the influx of foreign narcotics as a national security threat equivalent to an armed invasion. The President emphasized the importance of utilizing this analogy to justify tying foreign aid to international drug control cooperation.","topics":["Narcotics control","Foreign aid","National security","Public relations strategy","Drug trafficking"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T23:30:46.835Z"},"topicSlugs":["narcotics-control","foreign-aid","national-security","public-relations-strategy","drug-trafficking"],"audioDurationSec":28,"audioFiles":[{"file":"781-009.mp3","bytes":664554,"durationSec":27.61,"bitrate":192531,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.945Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/781-009.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/781-009","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/781/conversation-781-009","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}