{"conversationCode":"781-011","tapeNumber":781,"conversationNumber":11,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-781-011","startDateTime":"1972-09-18T15:45:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-09-18T15:45:00.000Z","startDate":"18-Sep-1972","startTime":"11:45 AM","endDate":"18-Sep-1972","endTime":"11:45 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On September 18, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at 11:45 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 781-011 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 781-11\n\nDate: September 18, 1972\nTime: 11:45 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull at 11:45 am.\n\n              The President's schedule\n                  -David N. Henderson\n\n                                         (rev. Oct-06)\n\n                  -William M. Colmer signing\n                       -Photograph session\n                  -Italian Fall Festival, September 17, 1972\n                       -Photograph session\n                            -Secret Service\n\nBull left at 11:45 am.","filename":["781-011.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"781-010","nextCode":"781-012","transcript":[{"start":0.71,"end":14.15,"text":"with regard to yesterday's photograph it was almost an understandable situation some of them are just so big"},{"start":29.04,"end":31.28,"text":"in stationary ways, instead of out of the way."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his aide Stephen B. Bull to review logistical arrangements for upcoming presidential photo opportunities, including meetings with Representatives David N. Henderson and William M. Colmer. The discussion focused on addressing overcrowding and spatial concerns encountered during recent events, such as the Italian Fall Festival. Bull was tasked with managing these logistical challenges to ensure more efficient management of future photograph sessions.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","White House logistics","Public relations","Photography sessions","Stephen B. Bull"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T23:30:57.910Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","white-house-logistics","public-relations","photography-sessions","stephen-b-bull"],"audioDurationSec":35,"audioFiles":[{"file":"781-011.mp3","bytes":853262,"durationSec":35.48,"bitrate":192392,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.945Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/781-011.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/781-011","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/781/conversation-781-011","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}