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Conversation 781-025

TapeTape 781StartMonday, September 18, 1972 at 1:10 PMEndMonday, September 18, 1972 at 1:12 PMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Timmons, William E.Recording deviceOval Office
AI Summary

President Nixon and William E. Timmons strategized on how to secure congressional support for the Jackson Amendment, emphasizing its necessity for strengthening the administration's position in the upcoming Phase II of the Strategic Arms Limitation Talks (SALT). Nixon expressed his full backing for the amendment and directed Timmons to arrange a meeting with key committee members, including Representatives Thomas E. Morgan and William S. Mailliard, to personally advocate for the administration's policy goals. The President aimed to leverage this direct engagement to ensure the amendment's success within the House-Senate conference.

Jackson AmendmentSALT negotiationsCongressional relationsForeign policyArms control
AudioNARA Description

On September 18, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and William E. Timmons met in the Oval Office of the White House from 1:10 pm to 1:12 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 781-025 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 781-25

Date: September 18, 1972
Time: 1:10 pm - 1:12 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President talked with William E. Timmons.

                                         (rev. Oct-06)

            The President’s recent conversation with Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson

            Armed Services Committee
               -Jackson Amendment
                   -House of Representatives
                   -Senate conference
                   -[Carl B. Albert]
                   -[Thomas] Hale Boggs
                   -Dr. Thomas E. (“Doc”) Morgan, William S. Mailliard
                   -The President’s view
                   -Phase II of Startegic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT] negotiations
                        -Henry A. Kissinger
                   -Possible meeting with the President
                        -Morgan
                        -Maillard
                        -Stephen B. Bull
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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i don't know what your strategy is but i didn't want to pass on that's my i do totally i'm totally for the jackson
Right.
And the point that you could emphasize is that in light of the discussions that you can use, Henry Anderson has had, that this will, that the lawfully relayed conference will hurt us in getting phase two.
But the point is, too, that it will weaken us in phase two.
We need this Jackson Amendment to help us in our phase two developments.
And that will help bring him in any time.
Bring Martin and, you know, just say, bring Martin and my yard in if you want to.
Just to, you call, you set up the bull or whatever you want here.
And, well, if he wants to hear it directly from me, that will help you with this committee.
He and my yard can come in and I'll lay it right on the line.
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