{"conversationCode":"781-028","tapeNumber":781,"conversationNumber":28,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-781-028","startDateTime":"1972-09-18T17:12:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-09-18T17:25:00.000Z","startDate":"18-Sep-1972","startTime":"1:12 PM","endDate":"18-Sep-1972","endTime":"1:25 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On September 18, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:12 pm and 1:25 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 781-028 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 781-28\n\nDate: September 18, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 1:12 pm and 1:25 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n             Henry A. Kissinger's schedule\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 1:25 pm.","filename":["781-028.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"781-027","nextCode":"781-029","transcript":[{"start":0.78,"end":1.85,"text":"Dress in hand and watch out."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his aide Stephen B. Bull to coordinate administrative logistics regarding Henry A. Kissinger’s upcoming schedule. The conversation focused on the precision of travel arrangements and the necessity of maintaining operational security for Kissinger's movements. No further major policy decisions were recorded during this brief administrative exchange.","topics":["Henry A. Kissinger","Scheduling","White House Staff","Logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T23:32:32.253Z"},"topicSlugs":["henry-a-kissinger","scheduling","white-house-staff","logistics"],"audioDurationSec":7,"audioFiles":[{"file":"781-028.mp3","bytes":175541,"durationSec":7.24,"bitrate":193967,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.945Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/781-028.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/781-028","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/781/conversation-781-028","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}