{"conversationCode":"783-005","tapeNumber":783,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-783-005","startDateTime":"1972-09-19T15:18:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-09-19T15:18:00.000Z","startDate":"19-Sep-1972","startTime":"11:18 AM","endDate":"19-Sep-1972","endTime":"11:18 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On September 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at 11:18 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 783-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 783-5\n\nDate: September 19, 1972\nTime: 11:18 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n             The President's schedule\n                 -Forthcoming meeting\n                     -Marion Scully\n                          -The President’s helicopter landing in Timahoe,\n                           Ireland [October 1970]\n                     -Connecticut\n                     -White House gift\n                          -Pin\n                     -Wire services\n\nBull left at 11:18 am.","filename":["783-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"783-004","nextCode":"783-006","transcript":[{"start":9.6,"end":12.56,"text":"This is that young pilot you're looking at in the sky."},{"start":12.58,"end":24.77,"text":"He's going to be pushing into the silence."},{"start":24.79,"end":26.29,"text":"I didn't know that."},{"start":27.85,"end":34.98,"text":"When you went to, Tim, the helicopter landed on a farm in Ireland."},{"start":38.59,"end":41.19,"text":"She's in the United States."},{"start":41.25,"end":48.72,"text":"She's been in the United States this summer, and she's been studying some people in Connecticut, and she's been studying Ireland's marks."},{"start":51.2,"end":57.7,"text":"I suppose we've got to give her an opinion, an appropriate question."},{"start":57.74,"end":61.33,"text":"This is just a point where I say, well, I don't know what I said."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his aide Stephen B. Bull to discuss an upcoming engagement with Marion Scully, a woman associated with the site of the President's 1970 helicopter landing in Timahoe, Ireland. The conversation focused on her current activities in Connecticut and the protocol for acknowledging her visit. Nixon sought to determine the appropriate response or gift, specifically considering a White House pin for the interaction.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Marion Scully","White House protocol","Public relations","Ireland"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T23:33:34.718Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","marion-scully","white-house-protocol","public-relations","ireland"],"audioDurationSec":70,"audioFiles":[{"file":"783-005.mp3","bytes":1692733,"durationSec":70.47,"bitrate":192174,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.945Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/783-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/783-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/783/conversation-783-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}