Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 783 › Conversation 783-007

Nixon, Scully & Kissinger on King Timahoe and Public relations

Tuesday, September 19, 1972 · 11:19 AM–11:25 AM ET · Oval Office · 6 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; Scully, Marion; Ziegler, Ronald L.; Kissinger, Henry A.; White House photographerConversation783-007 on Tape 783StartTuesday, September 19, 1972 at 11:19 AMEndTuesday, September 19, 1972 at 11:25 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 783-007 ↗

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President Nixon met with Marion Scully to discuss her background, her work in occupational therapy, and her family's connection to Ireland. The meeting included a brief photo opportunity on the Oval Office patio involving Henry Kissinger, the President’s Irish setter, King Timahoe, and handler Manolo Sanchez. The session concluded with the President presenting commemorative gifts, including Presidential seal pins and cufflinks, to Scully and her family members.

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Well, are you returning to Ireland tomorrow?
Tomorrow week.
Tomorrow week.
Oh, I've got to stop.
Tomorrow.
Hi.
I'm William Ziegler, President's Press Secretary.
I'm Jack Scully.
Marilyn, where did you get the question?
That was one that was on the grave site, wasn't it?
Yes.
Where do you live now?
I don't know.
One year or two here.
Oh, I have to stay.
Oh, in Connecticut.
Yeah.
Have you been here the entire summer?
Yes, I have been here two years.
Staying with relatives and getting close to them.
Oh, I see, yeah.
Where are we going to be all this time?
In Connecticut.
In Connecticut, right.
Well, there's a lot of Irish up there.
Let's go.
We can certainly come and do the press picture right up here standing on the other side.
Yeah, we might.
Oh, we might get the big setter up here.
We might.
We might get the setter.
Have you heard of him?
Yes, he's got it.
Manola Gibson.
Yeah, he's got it.
Yeah, I've heard of him.
Wow.
All of the towns.
Ready?
Can we put you back up so they don't give you a picture?
Sit down.
Sit down.
Sit down.
Sit down.
Sit down.
Sit down.
Sit down.
Sit down.
Sit down.
Sit down.
Sit down.
Sit down.
Sit down.
Sit down.
Okay.
That's nice.
I knew we'd get it.
All right, let's just start .
Go, go.
There we go.
You are, uh, you have, uh, your mother, father, and your daughter.
Yeah, fine.
Let's have a little, a few little things, please.
Give it to her, please.
Thank you very much.
There's a seal of the present in there, just a pin.
That's the present for ladies, and one for your mom, and one for your husband.
Let's get something for your dad, too.
All right.
Good.
These are cufflinks that have the sealer.
These are for men.
And we wish you the very best.
We have occupational therapy.
I'm actually engaged in it for a while.
After that, I will probably have your own family.
Bring them to America.
Nice to meet you and see you.
Yeah, you see, I...

NARA Description

On September 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, Marion Scully, Ronald L. Ziegler, Henry A. Kissinger, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:19 am to 11:25 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 783-007 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 783-7

Date: September 19, 1972
Time: 11:19 am - 11:25 am
Location: Oval Office

Stephen B. Bull met with Marion Scully.

             Marion Scully's schedule
                -Ireland

Ronald L. Ziegler entered at an unknown time after 11:19 am.

             Scully
                 -Meeting with the President in Ireland [October 1970]
                 -Schedule
                     -Connecticut

The President entered at an unknown time after 11:19 am.

             Scully
                 -Schedule
                     -Connecticut
                          -Irish-Americans
                 -Photograph opportunity
                     -Irish setter [King Timahoe]
                          -Manolo Sanchez

             The President's schedule
                 -Henry A. Kissinger

Kissinger entered at an unknown time after 11:19 am.

The President et al. went to the Oval Office patio at 11:22 am. Sanchez, King Timahoe, the
White House photographer and members of the press were present.

             Photograph's view frame
                 -Kissinger

              Sanchez’s instructions to King Timahoe
                  -English compared to Spanish language commands

The President and Scully entered the Oval Office at 11:25 am.

              Mr. and Mrs. Scully
                  -Presentation of gifts by the President
                      -The Presidential seal
                           -Pin
                           -Cuff links

              Marion Scully's career
                 -Occupational therapy
                 -Family
                      -US

              Ireland
                   -The President’s visit to Ireland
                   -The President’s background

Miss Scully et al. left at 11:25 am.

Also recorded on September 19, 1972

  • 030-001 11:17 AM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 11:17 am.
  • 783-005 11:18 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at 11:18 am.
  • 783-006 11:18 AM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House at 11:18 am.
  • 030-002 11:25 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Prescott S. Bush talked on the telephone from 11:25 am to 11:26 am.
  • 783-008 11:25 AM · 15 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at 11:25 am.
  • 783-009 11:25 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Prescott S. Bush met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:25 am to 11:26 am.
  • 783-010 11:40 AM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:40 am to 11:45 am.
  • 783-011 11:45 AM · 15 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:45 am to 12:12 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 783-007, September 19, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/783-007 (accessed October 1, 2026).