{"conversationCode":"783-024","tapeNumber":783,"conversationNumber":24,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-783-024","startDateTime":"1972-09-19T19:13:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-09-19T19:23:00.000Z","startDate":"19-Sep-1972","startTime":"3:13 PM","endDate":"19-Sep-1972","endTime":"3:23 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; Butterfield, Alexander P.;","description":"On September 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:13 pm and 3:23 pm. 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Hasek\n                       -Appreciation for correspondence\n\n             The President's schedule\n                 -Trip to Texas\n                      -Speech\n                      -Laredo and [Rio Grande High School]\n                 -Gale E. Sayers\n                 -Frank van der Linden\n                 -Congressman [William V. Chappell]\n                 -Signing ceremony for House Resolution [HR] [10670] bill for Survivor\n                 Benefits for Veteran’s Dependents, September 21, 1972\n                      -Melvin R. Laird, Ehrlichman, Charles W, Colson\n                      -Cabinet Room\n                 -F. Edward Hébert\n                      -Bill [HR 2]\n                           -Cabinet Room\n                 -Henry B. Struby\n\n             Protection of foreign officials\n\n                  -Butterfield's conversations with Eugene T. Rossides\n                  -United Nations [UN] meeting\n                  -Presidential candidate\n                  -Secret Service\n\n              The President's schedule\n                  -H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman's schedule\n                      -[OEO] veto\n                           -Ehrlichman\n                  -William E. Timmons\n\nButterfield left at 3:23 pm.","filename":["783-024.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B.","Butterfield, Alexander P."],"prevCode":"783-023","nextCode":"783-025","transcript":[{"start":6.2,"end":7.43,"text":"Sir, John's on my left."},{"start":66.98,"end":69.81,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":93.7,"end":112.33,"text":"We've got three little dinky things already on the table."},{"start":112.47,"end":114.49,"text":"Gale Sayers, the band of M&M's."},{"start":114.53,"end":115.67,"text":"Oh, sure."},{"start":122.26,"end":126.84,"text":"Bill's survivor's benefit plan for retired officers coming in in congressional relations."},{"start":127.8,"end":133.6,"text":"Staff, Mel Laird, and early friend Colson strongly recommend that you sign this at a ceremony."},{"start":134.86,"end":135.4,"text":"It's the bill."},{"start":135.42,"end":143.47,"text":"It gives an increase in the benefits for retired officers since the re-computation was killed."},{"start":143.53,"end":146.15,"text":"It's the most best thing."},{"start":146.21,"end":147.75,"text":"That's a big gain."},{"start":147.87,"end":151.01,"text":"And the only other one is"},{"start":152.66,"end":176.86,"text":"The only other one is that Henry Strube is an imperial potentate of the Shrine of North America."},{"start":216.69,"end":218.89,"text":"The Secret Service is stretched very thin."},{"start":218.97,"end":224.89,"text":"We're using agents in order to do the job."},{"start":224.91,"end":232.23,"text":"You'll check to see if Bob Hall is here."},{"start":232.25,"end":235.92,"text":"I'll have to find out what he told us."},{"start":236,"end":239.88,"text":"It's going to go on."},{"start":239.94,"end":240.2,"text":"That's fine."},{"start":240.22,"end":240.4,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":249.78,"end":249.86,"text":"Out."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Stephen Bull and Alexander Butterfield to review administrative scheduling, legislative priorities, and security concerns. The discussion focused on coordinating a signing ceremony for the veterans' survivor benefits bill and managing the President’s travel itinerary, including upcoming events in Texas. Additionally, the participants addressed the strain on Secret Service resources regarding the protection of foreign officials and high-profile individuals.","topics":["Presidential Scheduling","Veterans Affairs","Secret Service","Legislative Affairs","White House Administration"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T23:35:18.556Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","veterans-affairs","secret-service","legislative-affairs","white-house-administration"],"audioDurationSec":259,"audioFiles":[{"file":"783-024.mp3","bytes":6221739,"durationSec":259.19,"bitrate":192038,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:58.287Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:32.619Z","transcriptGapSeconds":43,"transcriptGapShare":0.17,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/783-024.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/783-024","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/783/conversation-783-024","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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