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Conversation: 784-007

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Start Date: 21-Sep-1972 10:15 AM

End Date: 21-Sep-1972 10:50 AM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Kissinger, Henry A.

Recording Device: Oval Office

784-007.mp3

NARA Description:

On September 21, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:15 am to 10:50 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 784-007 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 784-7

Date: September 21, 1972
Time: 10:15 am - 10:50 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Henry A. Kissinger.

            US-People’s Republic of China [PRC] relations
               -Kissinger’s recent trip to New York
               -Bangladesh
                   -Membership in United Nations [UN] issue
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                        Tape Subject Log
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              -Meaning of treaty
                  -Soviet Union position paper
                  -India joke
              -UN General Assembly
                  -Debate
                      -Timing
                         -1972 election
    -Visit to US
        -Medical delegation
              -October 1972
        -Scientific delegation
              -November 1972
        -Acrobatic team
              -December 1972
        -Announcements
              -Timing
                  -1972 election
        -Scientific delegation
    -The President’s schedule
        -National Career Conference in Los Angeles, September 28, 1972
              -Medical exchange with the PRC
                  -The President’s conversation with Chou En-lai

Presidential correspondence
    -Willy Brandt

Edward M. Kennedy
   -Possible visit to Stockholm
       -H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
            -Recent release of three US prisoners of war [POWs]
            -Hanoi
                 -Propaganda
                      -Democrats

Sir Alexander F. (“Alec”) Douglas-Home
     -Name spelling

Kennedy
   -Possible trip
       -Attack in Congress

Presidential correspondence
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                                  Tape Subject Log
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              -Letter from the President to Home
                  -Meeting with the President
                        -George P. Shultz
                        -Monetary tactics
                            -International monetary situation
                        -Personal channels
                        -Timing
                            -1972 election
                            -British
                            -The President’s recent meeting with John D. Ehrlichman, Caspar
                            W. (“Cap”) Weinberger, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr.
                        -The President’s schedule after 1972 election
                        -Camp David
              -Letter from the President to Andrei A. Gromyko
                  -Accommodations for Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
              -Letter from the President concerning Saints and Sinners roast
                  -Roast
                        -Jokes
                            -Harry Hirshberg [sp?]
                            -Unknown person
                        -Herbert E. Kaplow
                        -The President


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          Presidential correspondence
              -Letter form the President to Brandt
                   -Death of Israeli athletes at Munich Olympic Games
              -Letter from the President to Leonid I. Brezhnev
                   -Politburo circulation
                        -Hydrofoil
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                         Tape Subject Log
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             -Nikolai V. Podgorny
    -[National Security Council] [NSC]
    -State Department
    -Raymond K. Price, Jr.
         -Winston S. Churchill, Josef V. Stalin, and Franklin D. Roosevelt
             -Correspondence in World War II
                  -Quality preparation
    -Preparation
         -Drafting letters
             -Grace notes
             -State Department
             -Staffing
                  -Letter to [William McMahon] of Australia
                  -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
                       -Kissinger
    -Value
         -Haile Selassie
         -Mohammed Reza Pahlavi [Shah of Iran]
         -1972 election
    -Purpose
    -Europe
         -European charter

Economic affairs
   -The President’s role and agreements
       -Azores agreement
       -US-Soviet Union trade deal
   -The President's recent conversation with Haldeman
       -Ehrlichman

Personnel management
    -President’s Science Advisory Committee [PSAC]
    -Staffing reorganization
         -Office of Science and Technology
             -Dr. Edward E. David, Jr.
         -Space Committee
         -President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board
          [PFIAB]
         -Arms Control and Disarmament Agency [ACDA]
             -The President's conversation with Henry M. ("Scoop") Jackson
                  -Budget
                  -Bureaucracy
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                      -Attitude toward the President
                      -Gerard C. Smith
                      -William P. Rogers
             -State Department
        -Economic advisers
             -State Department
                  -The President’s recent conversation with Haldeman
                      -Peter M. Flanigan
                      -Loyalty
                  -Post-1972 election
                  -Peter Flanigan
                  -U. Alexis Johnson
                      -Ambassadorship
                  -Robert S. Ingersoll
                      -White House
        -State Department
             -Frank C. Carlucci
    -Loyalty to Administration
        -Burundi
        -Central Intelligence Agency [CIA]
        -Defense Department
        -George S. McGovern's forthcoming defense paper
             -Morton H. Halperin
             -Leslie H. Gelb
        -Defense Department
        -State Department
             -Foreign Service
        -Presidential appointments

Vietnam
    -Defense Department
    -Melvin R. Laird
        -B-52s
            -Withdrawal
                -Effect on negotiations

Campaign
   -1972 election

1972
    -McGovern
       -Laird
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                         Tape Subject Log
                           (rev. Nov-03)

         -Defense plans
             -Spending of funds
                  -1977
                  -Gross National Product [GNP]
         -Possible Soviet Union attack on Europe
             -Abram Chayes’s comments in London Economist
                  -Defense capabilities
                      -Airlift
                        -Timing
                          -The President’s News Summary annotation
                        -Airfields
                      -Rhine River
                      -World War II
         -Foreign policy advisor
             -Chayes

Israel
     -Kissinger’s conversation with Yitzhak Rabin
         -Jewish issues
              -Israel
                   -Munich Olympic killings
     -Terrorism
         -Anti-terrorist committee
              -Rogers
              -Contingency plans
                   -Haig
                   -Rose Mary Woods
                       -Jeane L. Dixon
                   -Rabin
                       -Possible kidnapping in exchange for release of blacks in
                        prison
                   -Hijacking, kidnapping
     -Soviet Jewish emigration
              -Possible Dr. Gilbert Klaperman phone call by the President
              -Possible telephone call by Kissinger
                   -Public statement
                       -Soviets
                   -Kissinger’s conversation with Rabin
                       -Emigration decree
     -US-Soviet Union trade deal
         -Peter G. Peterson
              -Charles H. Percy, Abraham A. Ribicoff, Jacob K. Javits
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                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Nov-03)

                               -Possible rider
                               -Timing of legislation
                                    -January 1973
                               -Kissinger’s conversation with Rabin
                               -Credit
                  -Possible industrial assistance
                      -Tanks
                      -Airplanes
                           -France
                           -Bureaucratic opposition
                           -Arms package
                               -Timing
                                    -October 1972
                                       -Political effect
                                    -Arabs
                               -Haig
                               -Kissinger’s possible conversation with Rabin
                                    -Jewish US senators
                                    -1972 election
                                       -The President’s friendship
                               -US Jews
                                    -Compared to Catholics in Biafra

             Kissinger’s schedule
                 -Forthcoming meeting with North Vietnamese

             Vietnam War
                 -Recent release of POWs
                     -Exploitation
                          -Hanoi
                          -Stockholm
                          -Copenhagen
                          -Press conferences
                          -Opposition leaders
                          -John Hart of Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
                          -Washington Star
                              -Orr Kelly

Kissinger left at 10:50 am.
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                                       Tape Subject Log
                                         (rev. Nov-03)