{"conversationCode":"784-009","tapeNumber":784,"conversationNumber":9,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-784-009","startDateTime":"1972-09-21T15:00:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-09-21T15:06:00.000Z","startDate":"21-Sep-1972","startTime":"11:00 AM","endDate":"21-Sep-1972","endTime":"11:06 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On September 21, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:00 am and 11:06 am. 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Struby]\n                 -Order of Masons\n             -Preparation for upcoming meeting with van der Linden\n                 -Book, Nixon's Quest for Peace\n                      -The President’s reading\n                      -Copies\n                           -Rose Mary Woods\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 11:06 am.","filename":["784-009.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"784-008","nextCode":"784-010","transcript":[{"start":0.36,"end":4.87,"text":"Mr. President, Gail Sears is not going to be able to make it to the Supreme Court."},{"start":4.89,"end":9.41,"text":"I'm just going to write down some sort of things on transportation and some miscommunication."},{"start":9.45,"end":12.21,"text":"She's going to be a great friend to me."},{"start":12.33,"end":19.18,"text":"I mean, she's going to be a great friend to me."},{"start":19.22,"end":22.72,"text":"I mean, she's going to be a great friend to me."},{"start":23,"end":25.45,"text":"I mean, she's going to be a great friend to me."},{"start":29.61,"end":30.37,"text":"And we'll have a friend."},{"start":30.43,"end":34.17,"text":"What time is the departure tomorrow?"},{"start":34.19,"end":34.47,"text":"9.30, sir."},{"start":34.61,"end":36.95,"text":"About 2 o'clock."},{"start":37.11,"end":38.89,"text":"It's 2.20, sir."},{"start":38.91,"end":43.71,"text":"We'll have that mason come in beforehand."},{"start":44.21,"end":47.24,"text":"He's going to tell you the night of the grand potentate."},{"start":47.54,"end":47.92,"text":"Oh, yeah."},{"start":47.94,"end":49.44,"text":"We have a pretty exciting schedule for today."},{"start":50.26,"end":50.96,"text":"It's already set."},{"start":53.52,"end":55.92,"text":"I'm glad you could proceed, man."},{"start":58.38,"end":64.22,"text":"You might want to note that you've read the book and we have it out here."},{"start":64.38,"end":65.68,"text":"That's all right."},{"start":65.92,"end":68.02,"text":"So I have told you about these out here."},{"start":68.1,"end":73.86,"text":"You might want to get them out occasionally."},{"start":73.88,"end":74.84,"text":"I have a new one."},{"start":74.86,"end":77.82,"text":"So I have it out in the supply here."},{"start":77.94,"end":80.94,"text":"It's called Rose, but that's a different one."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to finalize the President's upcoming daily schedule and coordinate logistics for various visitors, including Gale Sayers, Frank van der Linden, and the Imperial Potentate of the Shrine of North America. The discussion focused on managing photo opportunities and ensuring preparation for meetings, specifically regarding a book by van der Linden. Nixon also instructed Bull to manage copies of books and administrative materials for staff accessibility.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","White House logistics","Public relations","Frank van der Linden","Fraternal organizations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T23:36:24.664Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","white-house-logistics","public-relations","frank-van-der-linden","fraternal-organizations"],"audioDurationSec":86,"audioFiles":[{"file":"784-009.mp3","bytes":2067016,"durationSec":86.07,"bitrate":192131,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.945Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/784-009.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/784-009","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/784/conversation-784-009","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}