{"conversationCode":"784-012","tapeNumber":784,"conversationNumber":12,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-784-012","startDateTime":"1972-09-21T15:28:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-09-21T15:30:00.000Z","startDate":"21-Sep-1972","startTime":"11:28 AM","endDate":"21-Sep-1972","endTime":"11:30 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On September 21, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:28 am and 11:30 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 784-012 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 784-12\n\nDate: September 21, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 11:28 pm and 11:30 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n             The President's forthcoming meeting on House Resolution [HR] 2\n                 -F. Edward Hebert\n                 -Pen\n                 -William E. Timmons\n                 -Hebert, Leslie C. Arends, Charles E. Bennett, Durward G.Hall\n                      -Pens\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 11:30 am.","filename":["784-012.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"784-011","nextCode":"784-013","transcript":[{"start":1.34,"end":7.54,"text":"Is there any more Congressmen that want to stay here?"},{"start":26.46,"end":29.89,"text":"We're going to count Habear, Aarons, Bennett, and Zach Hall."},{"start":30.43,"end":39.8,"text":"Oh, we got four of them."},{"start":41.36,"end":43.22,"text":"All right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to finalize arrangements for a forthcoming Oval Office meeting regarding House Resolution 2. The discussion focused on coordinating the attendance of key Congressional members, specifically F. Edward Hebert, Leslie C. Arends, Charles E. Bennett, and Durward G. Hall. The President also ensured that pens were prepared for the participating legislators as part of the formal proceedings.","topics":["House Resolution 2","Congressional relations","Legislative affairs","Stephen B. Bull","White House ceremonies"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T23:36:41.910Z"},"topicSlugs":["house-resolution-2","congressional-relations","legislative-affairs","stephen-b-bull","white-house-ceremonies"],"audioDurationSec":46,"audioFiles":[{"file":"784-012.mp3","bytes":1104665,"durationSec":45.97,"bitrate":192227,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.945Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/784-012.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/784-012","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/784/conversation-784-012","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}