{"conversationCode":"784-015","tapeNumber":784,"conversationNumber":15,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-784-015","startDateTime":"1972-09-21T16:00:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-09-21T16:00:00.000Z","startDate":"21-Sep-1972","startTime":"12:00 PM","endDate":"21-Sep-1972","endTime":"12:00 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On September 21, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at 12:00 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 784-015 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 784-15\n\nDate: September 21, 1972\nTime: 12:00 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n             Announcement of signing ceremony\n\n             Arrival of J. Glenn Beall, Jr. and Lloyd M. Bensen\n\n             Photograph session\n                 -Beall\n                 -Otis G. Pike\n                 -[Naval Affairs]\n\n             Signing ceremony\n                 -Pen\n\nBull and the President left at 12:00 pm.","filename":["784-015.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"784-014","nextCode":"784-016","transcript":[{"start":0.62,"end":2.04,"text":"Right, Mr. President."},{"start":2.08,"end":3.98,"text":"There are only two senators here, sir."},{"start":4.02,"end":5.14,"text":"Senator Bell and Senator Benson."},{"start":5.5,"end":5.62,"text":"Aye."},{"start":5.96,"end":9.14,"text":"There's a request to determine, I think, we request a picture of Bell."},{"start":9.18,"end":18.28,"text":"The county's been pledging to observe the major league commander right after this, but we've got it in the October issue of the major league magazine."},{"start":18.32,"end":19.28,"text":"Right, right."},{"start":19.3,"end":22.26,"text":"Do you want to use it on the pen signing yourself?"},{"start":22.34,"end":23.06,"text":"No, I'll use it."},{"start":23.22,"end":26.52,"text":"I'll put it on the pen."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to coordinate logistics for a White House signing ceremony featuring Senators J. Glenn Beall, Jr. and Lloyd M. Bentsen. The discussion focused on scheduling a photograph session with the senators and finalizing the mechanics of the bill-signing process. Nixon confirmed his intent to personally utilize a specific pen for the official signing.","topics":["White House logistics","Bill signing ceremony","J. Glenn Beall Jr.","Lloyd M. Bentsen","Presidential protocol"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T23:36:58.374Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-logistics","bill-signing-ceremony","j-glenn-beall-jr","lloyd-m-bentsen","presidential-protocol"],"audioDurationSec":36,"audioFiles":[{"file":"784-015.mp3","bytes":867682,"durationSec":36.08,"bitrate":192390,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.945Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:32.812Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/784-015.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/784-015","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/784/conversation-784-015","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}