{"conversationCode":"786-020","tapeNumber":786,"conversationNumber":20,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-786-020","startDateTime":"1972-09-25T16:48:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-09-25T16:48:00.000Z","startDate":"25-Sep-1972","startTime":"12:48 PM","endDate":"25-Sep-1972","endTime":"12:48 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On September 25, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at 12:48 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 786-020 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 786-20\n\nDate: September 25, 1972\nTime: 12:48 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n             The President's schedule\n                 -Previous meeting\n                 -The American Medical Association [AMA] group\n                     -Dr. Charles A. (“Carl”) Hoffman\n\nBull left at 12:48 pm.","filename":["786-020.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"786-019","nextCode":"786-021","transcript":[{"start":5.09,"end":7.07,"text":"I'm sorry, Mr. President."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull briefly discussed the President's daily schedule and logistical arrangements regarding a preceding meeting with representatives from the American Medical Association, specifically Dr. Charles A. Hoffman. The exchange served as a routine administrative coordination of the President's appointments. No policy decisions were recorded during this short transition.","topics":["Presidential schedule","Stephen B. Bull","American Medical Association","Dr. Charles A. Hoffman","White House logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T23:39:49.615Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","stephen-b-bull","american-medical-association","dr-charles-a-hoffman","white-house-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":19,"audioFiles":[{"file":"786-020.mp3","bytes":452021,"durationSec":18.76,"bitrate":192759,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.945Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:33.148Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/786-020.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/786-020","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/786/conversation-786-020","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}