Conversation: 786-023
Prev: 786-022 Next: 786-024Start Date: Monday, September 25, 1972 7:04 PM
End Date: Monday, September 25, 1972 7:32 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Gleason, Thomas W.; Bowers, John; Molloy, Lawrence G.; Colson, Charles W.; Rodgers, Donald F.; White House photographer; Bull, Stephen B.Recording Device: Oval Office
NARA Description:
On September 25, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Thomas W. Gleason, John Bowers, Lawrence G. Molloy, Charles W. Colson, Donald F. Rodgers, White House photographer, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:04 pm and 3:32 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 786-023 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 786-23
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Date: September 25, 1972
Time: Unknown between 3:04 pm and 3:32 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with an unknown person. This recording began while the meeting was in
progress.
The President’s schedule
-Unknown person
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:04 pm.
Thomas W. (“Teddy”) Gleason, John Bowers, Lawrence G. Molloy, Charles W. Colson and
Donald F. Rodgers entered at 3:05 pm. The White House photographer was present at the
beginning of the meeting.
Greetings and introductions
[Photograph session]
Introduction
-Bowers
-Prisoners of war [POWs]
International Longshoremen's Association [ILA] support for the President's policies
-The President’s reading of written text
-Gleason
-George Meany
-Golf
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 1m 21s ]
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US-Soviet Union trade deal
-Administration relations with the ILA
-Peter G. Peterson
-Soviet ships
-Longshoremen
-POWs
-Soviets
-Trustworthiness
-Meany
-Shipping action in Havana
-St. Marinas [sp?]
-Gleason’s telephone call to Andrew E. Gibson
-Gibson
-Relations with Gleason
-New Jersey
-Grace Line, Inc.
US-Soviet Union maritime agreement
-Timing
-Henry A. Kissinger
-People’s Republic of China [PRC] ship
US-Soviet trade deal
-Exit visas for Jews
-Publicity
-Quid pro quo
-Jobs
-Timing
-Jobs
-Balance of payments
-Merchant marine
-Gibson
-San Diego contract
-Maine contract
-Shipbuilding
-Compared to Japan
-Gleason’s previous visit
-PRC
-Vietnam
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Merchant marine
-Cruise ships
-ILA
-Miami
-Nassau
-U.S.S. United States
The President's forthcoming trip to Quincy, Massachusetts
-Natural gas storage
-Operating Margins Gas [OMG]
-Size
Us-Soviet Union maritime agreement
-Shipping
-Division into thirds
-Colson’s conversation with Kissinger
-Jessie M. Calhoon
-The President’s schedule
-1964 grain shipment to Soviet Union
-The President's previous conversation with George Meany during golf
date
-Publicity
-John F. Kennedy
-Meeting with Meany
-Chartered ships in Switzerland
1972 election
-Rodgers
-Labor support
-The President’s conversations with Meany
-[George S. McGovern]
-Meany
-Open door policy
-Labor-management issues
-National defense
-The President’s conversations with Meany
-Cambodia decision
-Mining Haiphong and bombing North Vietnam decision, May 1972
-Businessmen
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-Intellectuals
-Labor-management issues
-Meany
-Chicago
-Recent appearance on television program
-John V. Lindsay
-McGovern
Merchant Marine
-Calhoon
-Cooperation with ILA
1964 grain shipment to Soviet Union
-Kennedy
-ILA stand
-US shipping
-US ship crew
Soviet Union and the PRC
-Totalitarianism
-Beneficial agreements
-US
-Communists
-Differences
-US cooperation
-Business relations
1964 grain shipment to Soviet Union
-US ship crew
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
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[Duration: 56s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
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Frank E. Fitzsimmons
-Relations with Gleason
-James R. (“Jimmy”) Hoffa
-Unification of unions
-Meany
-Joseph T. (“Joe T.”) Trerotola
-[International Brotherhood of Teamsters]-ILA cooperation
-Non-union shippers
-California
The President's forthcoming trip to San Francisco
-Hippies
-Possible reception
-Police
1972 campaign
-Democratic National Convention
-Gleason’s attendance
-McGovern’s confrontation with protestors at Doral
Hotel, July 12, 1972
-POWs
-Cambodia
-Thailand
-Foul language
-Security
-Buses
-Violence
-Coverage on television
Bowers’s views
-Representation of passenger ships
-Unloading Soviet ships
-Gerhard Eisler
-Escape aboard Batory
-Soviet influence in returning POWs
-State Department
-Change of position
-Briefing
-White House staff
-Support for the President
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-Vietnam War
-POWs
-Soviet Union
-ILA slogan
US relations with the Soviet Union and PRC
Vietnam war
-US relations with North Vietnam
Eisler
-Labor Committee
-The President and Kennedy
-House Un-American Activities Committee [HUAC]
-Invocation of Fifth Amendment
-Citation of contempt
-J. Parnell Thomas
-The President’s first congressional speech
-Vote
-Vito Mercantonio
-Escape
-Polish ship
-East German service
Unloading Soviet ships
-Baggage handling
-ILA
Thomas
-Drew Pearson
Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:05 pm.
Presentation of Presidential gifts
-Cuff links
-Vice Presidents
-Hubert H. Humphrey [?]
-Cuff links
-Presidential seal
-Pins
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Consultations
-Colson
-George Beall
-Gleason
-Colson and Beall
-First POW released
-Timing
Concern for POWs
Presentation of Presidential gifts
-Pins
-Presidential seal
-Golf balls
Gleason's meeting with Meany
The President's forthcoming meeting with union leaders
-California
-Peter J. Brennan
Gleason et al. left at 3:32 pm.