{"conversationCode":"788-013","tapeNumber":788,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-788-013","startDateTime":"1972-09-29T19:58:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-09-29T20:04:00.000Z","startDate":"29-Sep-1972","startTime":"3:58 PM","endDate":"29-Sep-1972","endTime":"4:04 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On September 29, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:58 pm and 4:04 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 788-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 788-13\n\nDate: September 29, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 3:58 pm and 4:04 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n             The President's forthcoming meeting with Sir Alexander F. Douglas-Home\n                 -Henry A. Kissinger\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 4:04 pm.","filename":["788-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"788-012","nextCode":"788-014","transcript":[{"start":4.72,"end":5.2,"text":"It's on."},{"start":6.12,"end":6.62,"text":"You can guess."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his aide Stephen B. Bull to coordinate logistical preparations for an upcoming meeting with British Foreign Secretary Sir Alexander Douglas-Home. The discussion also involved Henry Kissinger, likely regarding his role in facilitating the diplomatic encounter. The conversation focused on the scheduling and administrative arrangements necessary for the President to engage with the British official.","topics":["Alexander Douglas-Home","Henry Kissinger","White House scheduling","Diplomatic relations","Stephen B. Bull"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T23:43:04.155Z"},"topicSlugs":["alexander-douglas-home","henry-kissinger","white-house-scheduling","diplomatic-relations","stephen-b-bull"],"audioDurationSec":13,"audioFiles":[{"file":"788-013.mp3","bytes":302183,"durationSec":12.53,"bitrate":192882,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:57.945Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:33.519Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/788-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/788-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/788/conversation-788-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}